Dr. Aribert Heim.
Born: June 28, 1914.
Death: 1992 in Cairo?
Herr Heim should not be considered a doctor, since he practised in complete disregard of the Hippocratic Oath. He was camp doctor at Sachsenhausen, Buchenwald & Mauthausen. He murdered hundreds of inmates with lethal injections at Mauthausen.
He disappeared in 1962, but there is strong evidence that he is alive and well.
UPDATE – April 30 2008
Heim has been placed at the top of the Most Wanted Nazi Criminals list today. Here are some highlights from the ABC News website:
- Karl Lotter, a prisoner who worked in the hospital at Mauthausen concentration camp, had no trouble remembering the first time he watched Heim kill a man. It was 1941, and an 18-year-old Jew had been sent to the clinic with a foot inflammation. Heim asked him about himself and why he was so fit. The young man said he had been a soccer player and swimmer. Then, instead of treating the prisoner’s foot, Heim anesthetized him, cut him open, castrated him, took apart one kidney and removed the second, Lotter said. The victim’s head was removed and the flesh boiled off so that Heim could keep it on display.
- He later joined the Waffen SS and was assigned to Mauthausen, a concentration camp near Linz, Austria, as a camp doctor in October and November 1941.
- While there, witnesses told investigators, he worked closely with SS pharmacist Erich Wasicky on such gruesome experiments as injecting various solutions into Jewish prisoners’ hearts to see which killed them the fastest.
- Heim’s file in the Berlin Document Center, the then-U.S.-run depot for Nazi-era papers, was apparently altered to obliterate any mention of Mauthausen, according to his 1979 German indictment, obtained by the AP. Instead, for the period he was known to be at the concentration camp, he was listed as having a different SS assignment.
- Austrian authorities sent the 1950 arrest warrant to American authorities in Germany who initially agreed to turn him over, then told the Austrians, in a Dec. 21, 1950, letter obtained by the AP, that they couldn’t trace him.
- What happened next is unclear, but in 1958 Heim apparently felt comfortable enough to buy a 42-unit apartment block in Berlin, listing it in his own name with a home address in Mannheim, according to purchase documents obtained by the AP. He then moved to the nearby resort town of Baden-Baden and opened a gynecological clinic — also under his own name.
- Heim continued to live off the rents collected from the Berlin apartments until 1979 when the building was confiscated by German authorities.
- Proof that he is alive may lie in the fact that no one has claimed his estate. Heim has two sons in Germany and a daughter who lived in Chile but whose current whereabouts are unknown.
For the full story – please refer to the ABC News website.
Update It’s plausible that Herr Heim passed away in 1992. Cause of death may be intestinal cancer. Sure…but more likely he stored all his guilt internally and it wrenched his guts, strangling the life out of him.
Apparently, he also discovered Allah & his Prophet Mohammed before passing on. I wonder if it makes a difference to his eternal soul (spirit)?
June 10, 2008 at 2:53 am |
This old bast@#$% should fry in hell. After I read about what he did to that young man with the foot trouble, I think he and anyone who is hiding him (family, friends) should be put through the same thing and more. If it were not for a Jewish man, I would not have had a wonderful granddad. He married my Catholic grandmother and gave her a good life and adopted her kids (my mom was one of them) and treated all of us as if were born in his family. My granddad died two years ago and I miss him horribly. I shudder to think he could have met the same fate. My condolences to all that suffered due to this reptile. If he is caught, if you need help, call on me.
July 9, 2008 at 6:04 am |
Think Kalinamic’s sentiments are correct but this rodent should first be tried, hung and quartered with the world’s cameras filming. This piece of filth should be made to suffer for hours before meeting Satan. Make his equally repulsive children watch and his deserved punishment will serve as an example what will happen when these vile people are caught regardless of age or medical condition. Anybody caught giving them sanctuary should suffer the same fate in public squares regardless of their position in society.
July 9, 2008 at 1:39 pm |
“Make his equally repulsive children watch”- How are the children equally repulsive.It’s not as if they’re responsible for his actions. They are just byproducts of a horrible human being. If they are giving him sanctuary then perhaps they deserve punishment but hardly equal. Leaping to such conclusions and generalities lead to witch hunts and the innocent being lumped in with the guilty.
July 9, 2008 at 3:36 pm |
There is no hell and there is no God. Wishful thinking though Kalinamic
July 9, 2008 at 3:37 pm |
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July 9, 2008 at 4:53 pm |
Aribert Heim is a wonderful man because Jews are fucking pigs that ought to die in baths of acid. Fuck the Juden and all the swine that suck up to them!
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September 12, 2009 at 9:18 pm |
You fucking pig. Give me your address and I will meet you with my bare hands. Fortune favours the brave and only the strongest survive. The Nazi’s fell and the biggest coward in living memory – Hitler, (second only to Mussolini) was too weak an individual to continue in a world that was nearing a peaceful conclusion to his pathetic tirade against people that have far outlived him. I wish you cancer of the eyes… In a just world it is retarded imbeciles like you that should be injected in the heart with poison so as not to encourage idiots to think like you. Not that you think you fucking idiot. If I ever meet you I will rain a shit storm on you…
September 13, 2009 at 9:52 am |
If only either Britain or the USA had developed the atomic or nuclear bombs earlier, they could have vaporized Nazi Germany in one blinding mushroom!
September 15, 2009 at 10:45 am |
Silly cunt.
September 24, 2009 at 1:32 pm |
u r one nazi piece of fucking scum. all you and your repulsive fuckin breed should be wiped out .you couldnt win the war so you yellow fuckers just concentrated on experimentin on prisoners instead. i wish a slow and painfull death to you and all who know you. you are a sad wannabe skinhead who will rot in the bowells of hell
July 9, 2008 at 7:32 pm |
Don’t you mean sieg heil, to dumb nazi fuck? How can you call yourself a nazi if you can’t even spell one of their main slogans. Jesus Christ! Just as well most nazis are as stupid as you otherwise they may have actually conquered Europe in WWII.
July 10, 2008 at 1:38 am |
Yap, and the Germans speared and boiled little babies in the first world war (exposed as wartime propaganda AND apologized for by the Brits and Americans after the war)….we continue the saga……
Inmates killed by steam, electricity, boiling water, burned alive in ovens, poison used in God God knows how many ways, etc., etc., all exposed as nonsense , Like they say, there is no business like the Shoa business, A lot of people became filthy rich because of it. Just like so many “holocaust victims” miraculously reappeared after the war, want to make a bet that there will be a lot reappearing now?
The Germans were meticulous record keepers….may I suggest that all you experts read up on the captured German archives released by the Russians starting in 1989…..How 6 million turned into 74,000, and how ’starving prisoners” really died of typhus (report of the American Army surgeon gerneral 1946)Thyphus is mainly caused by lice,
The Victor writes history, the looser lives by it……..But there always comes a time for the truth….and that time is here now!
July 22, 2009 at 7:59 pm |
In WWI German troops killed 6,000 French and Belgian men,women and children as ‘francs-tireurs’. There is documentary footage that proves this.
There is plenty of documentary footage about the Holocaust. People were electocuted at the barbed wire fences if they tried to escape. People were not ’steamed’ , that is a misappraisal of what was happening, the gassing process, which took place where no one outside could directly see, for example, in Birkenau people were gassed outside the camp proper.
July 12, 2008 at 2:04 am |
I’m sorry but isnt 74000 victims still 74000 too many? The holocaust was one of humanity’s greatest atrocities regardless of the amount of people who perished. When will all these ignorant people who sum up an entire race or religion of INDIVIDUALS as one entity learn that everyone is different, stereotypes are just stereotypes. An example could be that not all Muslims are extremists, not all Jews are “fucking pigs”, in fact i’m pretty sure next to none of them are depending on your definition of pig, and not all Germans during WWII were Nazis. Its painful to hear that some idiots still claim Jewish people deserve to die as if they’ve done something wrong or are in some way responsible for things a corrupted Israeli GOVERNMENT (NOT populus) is committing. I guess some people need to grow up. Its no coincidence that many of the greatest recognised human beings have stressed acceptance, Jesus, Mandela, MLK, Ghandi, Rabin…I could go on but you get my point i hope.
September 12, 2009 at 9:08 pm |
Agree with Anon. Acceptance, compassion, humility are messages brought to humanity through the centuries.
To think or wish bad things upon people is futile & leads the world into further greed and problems.
Stereotypical thinking, is very dangerous as Anon says. Let him without sin cast the first stone. And I’m not a Christian, incase somebody wants to put me into a little box, label me, and think,”I know where you are coming from”
October 7, 2009 at 8:10 pm
oh so you think not being christian makes you better than everyone else?
July 12, 2008 at 8:08 am |
After the diaspora the Jews became the scapegoats of central Europe’s woes because they did not completely assimilate into European society, as such they were likely targets for persecution especially as the church gained political power, governments centralized, and Jews continued to practice their religion, dress, languages and customs. For centuries the Jews were persecuted and largely defenseless; the persecution culminating in the holocaust.
July 12, 2008 at 12:49 pm |
I am amazed by how infuriated people get, admonishing the same practices on Heim and using plentiful expletives. The fact of the matter is, Heim and his goons, as well as the leader of the Reich were monsters. They simply behaved as expected. All we can do is ensure none of them are able to roam another day free on this planet. The specter of the Reich is still alive and must be made to disappear, for ever.
July 12, 2008 at 2:53 pm |
still no comment in any news venue about the wall being built around Palistine.. and the daily horrors committed by Israel against palistinians.. why do people seem to hate the poor Jewish people so much? They own most of the worlds wealth and give us all jobs right?
July 12, 2008 at 2:56 pm |
Invictus speaks volumes.. its propaganda by the zionist regime that wants to rule the world. When you believe you are a chosen people and are better than any other man .. bad things can and do happen.
July 12, 2008 at 10:49 pm |
Its sad to see so much nonsensical Jewish hatred even today. If you typically ask a nazi today why they hate Jews so much, they will throw in a bunch of stereotypes to back up their claims. The truth of the matter is, is that for all the wrongs in the world you can blame Jews for, it doesn’t match up to even half as many wrongs the Nazi regime committed, let alone the Church. When in history did the Jews ever commit such an act as was committed to them all throughout history including and before world war II? I understand that the situation of the state of Israel is turbulent, but as jews living in Europe, literally citizens with no other power then a brain and a soul, when today we have a chance to ask for forgiveness some of us our either cought in too much pride, shame and ignorance to still compare Jews to objects (animals), which are they themselves know are downright awkward, wrong, exaggerated comparisons that mismatch the magnitude and seriousness of the topic of the holocaust. Its this sort of blindness that leaders use to misguide and control the population so filled with idiocracy.
July 13, 2008 at 10:10 am |
Nazi power could have takin over fuck anybody who doesnt feel that way.all you people are fucking stupid
September 24, 2009 at 1:37 pm |
knobhead
July 13, 2008 at 11:09 am |
Acting like an asshole doesn’t really express your opinion on this delicate subject, I think you should read some more of the posts, you’ll find that everyone here hates the Nazi’s for what they’ve done except that Nazi guy you won’t miss as you scroll up (you really can’t miss him). If anyone is stupid here it’s you. You should learn to read. And yes I think everyone here realizes Nazi power could have taken over, and still can today so perhaps you should post up a message that actually says something. Just a thought
July 14, 2008 at 4:34 am |
I think this Seymour guy has proven my point. Most Israelis are Jewish, this is correct but not all Jews are Israeli, their ancestors may be but why should someone be persecuted for something their anscestors did, if you are white would you want to be persecuted for the events during the slavery era or the countless cultures that were robbed naked by your anscestors? But even then its an Israeli Government that’s committing these horrible things not the Israeli population and certainly not the Jewish population. Its ridiculous to blame a 7 year old Jewish girl in London or a 40 year old Jewish man in Seattle for the acts of the Israeli military. As far as I can see once Israel starts recognising itself as part of the middle east in addition to being part of Europe and instead of thinking its part of the USA then these problems will slowly fade away. After all isn’t it more of a dispute over territory than religion right?
Also Jews don’t own most of the worlds wealth. Some Jewish people own a few Hollywood production companies which may be as far as Seymour is watching. But is Rupert Murdoch Jewish? Carlos Slim Helu? Bill Gates? Steve Jobs (he has Syrian heritage!)? Warren Buffett? Nah, some wealthy people are Jewish but some Hindu people are wealthy, some Christians…
And as for the chosen people, don’t Evangalists among other forms of Christianity see themselves as the chosen ones? And when Judgment Day comes only they will be welcomed into Heaven? You have some serious studying to do on Judaism, Seymour. Scratch that, the WORLD. Start looking at people as individuals. Religion, in most cases, should come after personality, preferences and interests in defining who a person is and its down right ignorant to sum up a person by their religious beliefs and group people together as such, but that seems to be, as far as what you’ve said on this page, what you are (i could be wrong! I welcome you to prove it)
And the Kyle guy doesnt even deserve a response. The Vikings COULD have taken over the world! Fuck all nazis who think any different! (i’m being satirical
) Although I enjoy debates I’m beginning to think the Nazi pig of whom this page is about doesn’t deserve this much attention.
July 14, 2008 at 9:07 pm |
Ignorance must be a bliss at times….so let me take the liberty of mentioning a few facts:
Antisemitism started mainly in the middle ages. Priests could red Hebrew in these days, and after reading the Talmud, were horrified as to the contents. The Talmud teaches that non-Jews are lower than animals. Without doubt, the Talmud is the most racist book ever written…period. Do read the translations of the Babylonian Talmud (not the translations of the Talmud for non-jews). And in the middle ages Jews lived strictly by the Talmud.
There is no such thing as An American, British, German or any other country Jew. There are Jews living in these countries, but they will always consider themselves Jewish first, Israeli second and, when all else fails, a citizen of the country they live in. Hence they will never do what is expected of anyone living in a country, that is to integrate and to show loyalty to their home country. Go ahead, ask any Jew if he feels as an American first.
The greatest tragedy of the 20th century was communism. Depending on who’s research you trust, between 66 and 120 million soviets were killed by Stalin. Communism was a Jewish affair. Marx and Engles, the fathers of communism, were Jewish. Lenin was part Jewish, Stalin had 3 Jewish wifes. Of the 45 Soviet Central Committee members in 1919, 32 were Jewish.
Do read the background of the people that pushed us into the Iraq war, the ones that were around Bush when the war started (Wolfowitz etc.). All Jewish and all, when questions started to be asked were moved to safe positions…ALL OF THEM.
In a radio interview in Israel, then Prime Minister Sharon said the following:
Don’t worry about the Americans…. WE RULE AMERICA AND THE AMERICANS KNOW IT!!!!
Go ahead, Tell me that these facts are wrong!
July 15, 2008 at 8:13 am |
Wow I am disgusted and disturbed by what that nazi fuck wrote. Also I am an American Jew and I do consider myself American first. Invectus, you cushion your argument with biased rhetoric and unfulfilled facts. Everything you wrote is closed minded and snobbish. The Talmud is ancient, just as is the Torah, the Qur’an and the Bible. There are bound to be things written that are blatantly offensive to somebody. With progressive times we adjust the life lessons we extract from these texts. My father is a Chasidic Jew who follows the Talmud, yet he fell in love with a Catholic woman, my mother.
And to hint that Jews were the face of Communism is ridiculous. Russia is home to one of the largest Jewish populations in the world. Of course many of them were Jewish, but that doesn’t equate that communism stems from Judaism. Many of those Soviets killed by Stalin were Jewish as well, but you leave that out.
It is not singular religions or ethnicities who commit acts of evil, it is people who do this. It is irrational to to take an individual and relate their actions to that of their religion or their race. I read the article above about an Christian-Austrian man who did atrocious and disgusting and heartless things, yet I do not equate that with Christians or Austrians.
July 15, 2008 at 9:22 am |
Wow, I mean really………..WOW. WTF is wrong with some of you people. It hurts my heart to hear all of you “NAZI” hunters are so obsessed with putting in jail some old man that was just following orders of his superiors. The amount of money, time, effort, and sleepless nights that you “NAZI” hunting “JUNKIES” spend is disgusting to say the least. If all of those things were applied towards something that would actually make a differance in this world like STOPPING THE ABDUCTION AND RAPING OF CHILDREN. Not everybody has a Jewish father or even knows, or ever seen a jew, but everybody has seen a child and the innocence that they bring to this would. So not to offend anyone but here goes, “FUCK ALL YOU SNIVELING JEWS” with your “FUCKING MERCEDES BENZ” and your “FUCKING LOW RENT APARTMENT COMPLEXES”, and all of your “SHOT CALLING JOBS AND JOB TITLES THAT YOU ALL RETAIN IN HOLLYWOOD”. WAH FUCKING WAH you “FUCKING SLUMLORDS”. So please explain why people who abduct, sodimize, and torture children should take a backseat to your “NAZI HUNTING” bullshit. Get your priorities straight people , and jews. “YOU GOTTA RAISE THE ROOF …WOO WOO”
July 15, 2008 at 2:47 pm |
1. All you retards taking jabs at Isreal, please take the time to do a little research. Isreal doesn’t take any shit from anybody. That doesn’t make them bad people. I wish the US was more like that. Too bad for the pussy liberals that bitch and whine about everything…
Pussy liberal thought process on the return of kidnapped civilians: “Oh, they kidnapped our reporters! Let’s go over and discuss the return of our reporters over tea and cookies! YES! That’s a wonderful idea! I’ll get my mint tea ready, the terrorists will love that!”
2. In regard to the comment concerning whether or not whites would want slavery pinned on them because of the slavery era… Why were whites specifically targetted? During the “slavery era” more blacks were being held and sold as slaves by fellow blacks. Today, blacks still hold each other captive as slaves. Don’t really see why whites alone should be worried about the possibility of taking resposibility for the “slavery era”, when more blacks held slaves than whites at every point in history. Not to mention all the forms of slavery throughout history that were not black or white.
3. To the first poster… why let this guy off so easily as to give him an unconcious death (like what he gave the young soccer player)? Yes, what he did to that young man was disturbing, but at least the death was painless. The fact that this psycho-path mutilitated his body while he was unconcious just shows how sick he really was. He deserves a much more painful and drawn out death. Or he should have his back broken, eyes and tounge removed and then set free to live out his life as a blind and dumb quadriplegic. He shouldn’t be let off with a quick death and then it’s over… and we as tax payers shouldn’t have to pay for this scum to rot in our prisons. Maybe some slum prison in Eastern Europe with hard physical labor and poor health conditions and slop for food, where overtime he will concoct a terrible disease, would be appropriate, but no “luxury” prison in the “soft” US where the only “humane” form of captiol punishment is that of an injection*, would be fitting.
*The liberals are this close to having lethal injection considered inhumane as well.
July 15, 2008 at 2:57 pm |
JustinKase:
“Some poor old bastard that was following the orders of his superiors.” I’d like to see the proof that this old piece of shit was ordered to remove one kidney, destroy the other kidney, cut off the penis, and remove and boil the head of a random young soccer player… if you can find me some proof that his superiors were that “specific” with their orders I might believe he was only “following orders” then…
Get real. It takes a demented waste of life to come up with that kind of shit.
I suppose the likes of Dahlmer were just following orders too?
July 15, 2008 at 3:01 pm |
Sorry JustinKase, I wasn’t finished yet…
Even after that rant against the Jews in which you referrenced several times how bad all the people who rape and murder children are… I’d still bet on the fact that you’re probably one of the dumbasses who oppose the death penalty for child rapists…
July 15, 2008 at 6:13 pm |
wtf ; of course you are disgusted by the facts as laid out by me, as they do not correspond to yours.
I make a bet that your father insisted that your mother convert to Judaism, so that you can be raised as a Jew. That alone would constitute racism in any society.
And to repeat: The greatest mass murderers of the 20th century were Jewish, and communism was started and advanced by Jews. Do read the following article:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/1,7340,L-3342999,00.html
(It’s a jewish website}
which gives but a small glance on what happened and does not mention Beria, Trotsky(Braunstein)etc. Slowly but surely, the truth is being accepted even in Israel, and even the Israeli schoolbooks are in the process of being rewritten
And yes, you Jew Fuck (as you call me a Nazi Fuck I think this is only fair), i have many discussions about that with my Jewish(Israeli) friends (surprise!), and we have come to the conclusion that we are all victims of the times, NOT just the Jews, and that Jews have gone too far portraying themselves as victims only.
The more the Jews whine and complain about Antisemitism the more they will be disbelieved, just like the hypochondriac relative that complains about dieing ad adnausium day after day.
It was an British state secret for 70 years that Lord Balfour (Balfour declaration) was Jewish (I wonder why!) and only now are we being told that Eisenhower, who starved 1.7 million German soldiers to death AFTER the war was Jewish. For an account on this mass murder read James Bacques Other Losses. This book was vilified by the Jewish media, but is now accepted as being the truth.
In the old days you could lie and cheat and it would take 50 years for the truth to come out. Well, I’ve got news for you: it now takes 5 minutes. The internet is a wonderful media. Do yourself a favor and except that Jews were disproportionally guilty of complicity for many atrocities , (how about the 1948 massacres in Palestine) wars and especially white collar crime(of the 10 Oligarchs in Russia, 9 were Jewish, Israel has the largest number of white collar criminals on the run of any nation), the world will forgive you, The facts speak for themselves. Deny it and the world will get tired of the blatant lies. I know I have, and fortunately, so have Jews that believe they have gone far enough.
Lastly, let me quote some interesting comments:
“The Bolshevist revolution in Russia was the work of Jewish brains, of Jewish dissatisfaction, of Jewish planning, whose goal is to create a new order in the world. What was performed in so excellent a way in Russia, thanks to Jewish brains, and because of Jewish dissatisfation and by Jewish planning, shall also, through the same Jewish mental and physical forces, become a reality all over the world.” – The American Hebrew September 10, 1920
“We Jews, we, the destroyers, will remain destroyers forever. Nothing that you will do will meet our needs and demands. We will forever destroy because we need a world of our own.” – Maurice Samuel ‘You Gentiles’, P. l55 Harcourt, Brace. 1924
“You have not begun to appreciate the depth of our guilt. We are intruders. We are subverters. We have taken your natural world, your ideals, your destiny, and played havoc with them. We have been at the bottom of not merely the latest great war, but of every other major revolution in your history. We have brought discord and confusion and frustration into your personal and public life. We are still doing it. No one can tell how long we shall go on doing it. Who knows what great and glorious destiny might have been yours if we had left you alone.” – Marclis Eli Ravage, Century Magazine February, 1926
“I am devoting my lecture in this seminar to a discussion of the possibility that we are now entering a Jewish century, a time when the spirit of the community, the non-idealogical blend of the emotional and rational and the resistance to categories and forms will emerge through the forces of anti-nationalism to provide us with a new kind of society. I call this process the Judaization of Christianity because Christianity will be the vehicle through which this society becomes Jewish.” – Rabbi Martin Siegel New York Magazine, P. 32 January 18, 1972
“I am not an American citizen of Jewish faith. I am a Jew. I have been an American for sixty-three years, but I have been a Jew for 4000 years.” – Rabbi Stephen S. Wise (1933)
wtf….biased rhetoric and unfulfilled facts? While my arguments are factual, you state the same, tired Jewish excuses…NO, NO, it can’t be us! So it must be you! You know the jewish word for F++ck You? Hmmmm? TRUST ME, TRUST ME!
July 15, 2008 at 6:31 pm |
Darn, I pushed the send button before I finished.
wtf: Tell me what is theTRUE EXACT translation of SHIKSA, the name Jews call All non Jewish girls,,,Hmmmmm? Come on, let’s see if you have the guts to tell everybody here.
On the other hand, let me do it now:
The word shiksa is derived from the Hebrew term sheketz, which means “abomination,” “impure,” or “object of loathing”, depending on the translator.
In other words, whore.
Now then, who’s the racist? Hmmmm?
October 29, 2009 at 7:56 pm |
Read your postings, love that you mentioned the Eisenhower event. I didn’t learn that till I started having conversations with my wise old neighbour. He also told me that Hitler had put all the Jews on boats and sent them to America, Who turned around and sent them back.Didn’t learn that in school either…
July 16, 2008 at 6:12 am |
Yeah, your quotes are pretty out-dated. The most recent is from 1972 and the rest from the twenties and thirties. And alot are from Rabbis who have devoted their life to Judaism, so of course they will identify themselves as Jewish over their country. So once again you round off these obviously extreme views as the “Jewish opinion”. Could you get a quote from an average Jewish person? Yes, probably, but sticking to the extreme views really helps your argument.
I’ll admit that out of all of the people who claims Jews are pigs on this page, you’re at least well spoken but your outlook is flawed. Most organised religions were started on the premise that they were above everyone else. The false sense of superiority appears to be one of the main positives of being religious! And yes the Shiksa direct translation is offensive yet THOUSANDS of years old. Maybe long long ago when Jews were persecuted wherever they lived they would have had to identify themselves as Jews first but things have greaty changed since then and even since you’re nice, correctly referenced quotes were written. And surely you’ll be aware that pre-revolution Russia was a hell hole where they were repressed by the Royal Family, were centuries behind other countries technologically, 90% of the population were peasantry and pograms frequently occured (when Jews were scapegoated for any economic and social problems Russia had, these were not the Jews fault but the flawed logic Russia was based on, and got the mass public to round up and kill Jews) that revolution needed to happen, regardless of what happened after it, Russia had to collapse. It is a shame that a horrific dictator like Stalin would commit those atrocities in the name of communism despite not following it. Oh and Karl Marx wasn’t an evil Jew. He simply recognised the evils of capitalism (it works! but its evil) and that religion is the “opium of the masses”. Terrible things were carried out in his and Engles names but the Bolshevik Revolution was done to overthrow the incapable Tsar Nicholas the Second and the repression which the Russian royal family stood for. As far as my own research goes Stalin hated Jews too. And, again my research, I pegged his death toll at 18 million roughly (still more than Hitler albeit over a larger time period). Communism turned ugly when Stalin hid behind its name, not in 1919 before he took charge. You seem like a smart guy Invictus, so am I wrong in assuming that the premises of Communism are that everyone is treated equal in a classless society? Yeah its naive and proven not to work when a country has no money to spread around anyway, but is that really evil? Or is Stalin evil, who didnt practice communism, just put up the red flag and killed and repressed his own people (including Jews) behind it.
Okay you hate Jews, I don’t. Your choosing to blame them for things that happened thousands of years ago and treating them as some sort of evil entity, I’m not. The Jews I’ve met, which is alot now that I think about it, are just people who are Jewish. They function like any other human being and are entitled to the same rights. They don’t bitch and moan about the humanity’s scapegoat thing, they just get offended when they hear anti-semitism. Like any person would. I’m not in favour of some of the old Orthodox methods but as far as I can see Reform Judaism is doing all the right things: dispelling sexism, basically righting all the wrongs you mentioned from thousands of years ago. Most religions have terribly out-dated laws because these religions are thousands of years old and life thousands of years ago was completely different to life now. Have you done any research on the evils committed by the Catholic Church? Do you think its possible that a Jewish person could be a decent human being? We can’t change our history, and every culture, country and religion has a dark history, its up to us now not to judge people for things their ancestors have done. Judge them for what they as individuals do. If they’re assholes, treat them as such, if they’re decent people, you know what to do.
And when I mentioned slavery being blamed on white people, I meant specifically the slave trade era in the 17th to 19th century involving the United Kingdom and United States and others, you know when black people were taken from their homes to work as slaves on tobacco farms. I wasn’t denying that black people had slaves. The Egyptians had slaves, JEWS!
July 16, 2008 at 6:40 am |
Oh and I never said child abduction wasn’t bad, its one of the worst things in the world. I’m not a detective who could be on the beat looking for a child molester, that post was random and misdirected. Also your view on Jews are ignorant.
July 16, 2008 at 6:51 pm |
Anonj,
cudos to you, well researched.
Like you, I have Jewish friends (Reform and Pregressive), and not only do i get along with them(within reason) We actually do discuss the above subject.
However, here is the fly in the ointment:
I have personally seen Jews (Orthodox) scream at their kids for shaking the hand of a non-Jew. I have seen them spitting! on people behind their backs…all because they were not Jewish. If anyone else would behave like that he would be labeled a racist by everybody.This Anon, is were you are missing the crux of the problem.
Reform and Progressive Judaism is a very RECENT turn in Judaism. It did not start until 1970 in Israel and not much earlier in the US. Reform Judaism is based on the teachings of a Rabbi Samuel Holdheim (1806-1860), in Germany, and did not really take shape until about 1940 in the US.
In Europe, especially eastern Europe, The overwhelming majority of Jews were orthodox. They did not mingle with the population but lived in self imposed
ghettos. They lived strictly by the Talmud and to a certain extend the Cabala had a lot of influence. The Talmud teaches that non-Jews are lower than cattle, and that is is ok to cheat, lie, steal, etc, as long as it is not done to their fellow Jews, This is what is swept under the rug today. Hell, even my Jewish friends admit to that, Judaism without doubt, is the most RACIST of all religions, The reputation of being thieves, usurers, bloodsuckers etc,ect, IS WELL DESERVED,
Every prejudice in this world has a basis in truth…everyone of them. (look at the cars that GM builds now…they maybe better than previous models, but GM has such a bad reputaition that few people want their cars). Once you have lost that good reputation, it’s ever so hard to get it back.
Which brings me to the next point. There is absolutely no attempt by Jews to finally admit their wrong doings. On the contrary, they believe that the world owes them anything and everything ad infinitum. Let me give you and example:
When the Swiss banks settles with the World Jewish Congress, there were 1500 so called holocaust survivors in Australia, of whom not a SINGLE one of them had any proff as to their survivor claims. The Australians took their word for it, As soon as the news of the settlement was made public there were 25,000 miracle survivors! This was publicized extensively in Australia, with the predictable result that the reputation of Jews in Australia now is at rock bottom. I have been to Australia many times, believe me when I say that Australians are not very enamored with their Jewish populous. All that Jews did there was loose the last bit of good-will extended to them.
Ever seen a bad Jew on TV, in the movies, in magazines? My Jewish friends proudly proclaim that the media, the banks and Washington’s lobby industry is in their hands (very true!). Co-incidence you say? Smartness of Jewish brains?
Now then, do you really believe that they have changed thet much in 60 years?
http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/shahak2.html
read this one, very interesting.
Something else that you should think about. While they preach liberalism and integration to the rest of the world, they themselves would not go close to that one with a bargepole! Go ahead, talk to a Jew about that one, you’ll get a cynical smile. Or better yet, try to immigrate to israel as a non-Jew.
When they will take responsibility for their past and present actions, and embrace the morality common to us and every other civilized nation (oh yes, you can still be Jewish), stop the constant whining and agitation, stop feeling superior to everyone else, then and only then will their troubles be over. Until then I, and so many other people all over this world, refuse to give the extra pound of flesh which they think they are entitled to. Oh yes, I did play Shylock in The Merchant of Venice, and I was damn good at it.
July 22, 2009 at 8:32 pm |
This is absolute Neo nazi garbage masquerading as fact. The vast majority of Jews in East Europe were Orthodox. What is Communism? It is the rejection of religion. Now why would people who believe in God believe in Marxist-Leninism? It’s just not the case. Because SOME Jews joined the Party, does not mean that All Jews wanted Communism. Fanny Kaplan in 1919 tried to assassinate V I Lenin, the atheist. So what you’re saying is bunk.
Furthermore, far from being ‘parasites’ or leeches, the workforce the Nazis initially depended on were… the Orthodox Jews! They were involved in all kind of small business, trade and manufacturing, and here’s the proof! Indeed, Jews have always been known for their tailoring… and the very SS uniforms were Jewish-tailored! No, it is not true what you’re saying and I’m calling you on it!
July 16, 2008 at 11:54 pm |
Surely immigrating to Israel as a non Jew would be incredibly similar to immigrating to Iran, Iraq or any other middle eastern country as a non Muslim. They’re all religious, and currently war-torn states. That doesn’t really support your argument. And your link is about Jewish Fundamentalism, FUNDAMENTALISM exists in all religions and the key part of that word is probably MENTAL. I know for a fact that not all Jews are fundamentalist, some are but I’m not going to judge those who aren’t for it.
Yes, Reform Judaism is a new practice, by religious standards, but its growing ever steadily. Just like all religions, Judaism has to change with the times but there will always be those who wish to stay conservative. But just because of these conservative Jews there’s no need to use the pronoun “They” to describe all of them. You still appear to be negating the fact that all Jews are individuals capable of independant thought, the wtf guy who posted an above comment hardly fits your personal view of a Jew. They even said they see themselves as American and not Israeli, directly contradicting your idea of a “typical Jew”. Even if your Jewish friends believe that the media, banks and lobby systems are in Jewish pockets, I still don’t. And I have studied and researched them all. It’s a matter of opinion and research I guess.
You’ve mentioned the Talmud several times now. Have you read the Babylonian translations? All 21 or so volumes take Rabbis a lifetime to read and study. So I’m guessing you’re taking certain parts out that were written in a different society and applying them to today. As far as my own research and understanding goes there is no part of the Talmud that identifies non Jews as “lower than cattle”. But I’m sure there’s plenty of verses or phrases in it that could be purposely misinterpretted or taken out of context to back that up, but that would also be possible in the Bible and the Qur’an as well.
That’s shocking that you’ve seen some Jews behave that way to non Jews. Although I’ve never witnessed this I’m sure it does exist. But let me ask you, have you seen a picture of an Islamic Extremist covered in blood screaming a paraphrase of “death to the west”? Or a Christian speaking in tongues and preaching about each and every word of the bible being fact and that when Jesus returns then all non believers in Christ as the Lord will burn in hell? Do either of those examples affect your views on all the people who follow the faiths of Islam and Christianity? Because if the answer is no then you’re not really being fair on Judaism.
Could you possibly send me a link to the Australian holocaust survivors? I can’t seem to locate any negative information about them.
I recognise your views and I know I cannot change your opinions on the Jewish religion. I just hope when you portrayed Shylock you did it with dignity and showed him to be the sympathetic human character affected by the times he lived in that I see him as (he lost his wife’s ring for goodness sake!), that play was written for an anti-semitic audience but I maintain Shakespeare was no anti-semite and the play can be done fairly portraying both sides…and I also hope you’re not Al Pacino or the ghost of Sir Lawrence Olivier :p
July 17, 2008 at 10:06 pm |
I have just taken the time to read the article that promted your posts. I must say there are many views and most of them are valid, insightful and inspiring. Information and being informed are two different things. Here are my thoughts take them or leave them as you wish.
1. As a member of the human race I find it criminal when ANY group of peoples finds it “Their right to torture and kill anyone”. Given the choice of killing thousands or saying no and dying. I say NO.
2. Nazi did not kill just Jews. They killed people they deemed not worth living. Among them were the were the mentally infirmed , children with deformities, Christian Nuns and Priests who stood against them, Gypsies, or just anyone that did not follow the Nazi rule without question.
3. Most that still spout Nazi doctrine in the United States are uninformed, white low to middle class boys, that fall pray to others because they have to much time with nothing to do. (the raised by wolves syndrome or lack of wolves)
4. “I believe all suffering is caused by ignorance. People inflict pain on others in the selfish pursuit of their happiness or satisfaction. Yet true happiness comes from a sense of peace and contentment, which in turn must be achieved through the cultivation of altruism, of love and compassion, and elimination of ignorance, selfishness, and greed.”- Dalai Lama
Peace and Happiness people
July 17, 2008 at 11:30 pm |
blah blah blah. im going to eat dinner.
July 18, 2008 at 1:04 am |
Hey to all you anti-Semite geniuses out there. Since you hate us anyway, have a little more justifications.
So here goes: We are better then at the very least because while you are engaged in pursuit of ignorance, inbreeding and beer consumption, we are engaged in bettering ourselves by the pursuit of knowledge and philanthropy.
For those of you that cannot spell knowledge, philanthropy or other “them smart Jew” words, here’s a simplified version, and some advise for you so that you and you peppy can undirstan’ boy: Avoid big potholes while driving your 1957 pick-up truck so’s you ain’t gots to bang yer head against the shotgun rack anymore that you have to. Less cerebral damage. Sorry, I mean less memory and direction loss when you goin’ to git some beers at the country store.
And if that was too complicated for you nitwits, how’s about your sister blowing me. But that is before you and your dad get to sleep with her, and to perpetuate your scumbag kind.
July 18, 2008 at 2:46 am |
Nazi’s are the worst monsters to walk the face of the earth, they teach there children to be just as insane. They show the world how insane they are and they think they can brainwash people into a lie. For every discovery of there evil plans and desires they presume we should know nothing of it, as if we are too ignorant to know the difference between real and unreal, or right or wrong, no civilized person would would think as they do. They know the skill of deception, the skill of insults and nonsense lies, because there not civilized. They are fussy people that can not tolerate other people, they are so fussy only certain people do they like, only to deceive. How could anyone so demented and uncivilized and think they are civilized and think they made the world better, the only way they managed to get any where was with cruelty, treat people as slaves, force work or actions, they makeup lies about someone to get people to hate them, there not sane there not civilized.
July 18, 2008 at 2:58 am |
WOW! You are all geniuses! Let’s get down to basics. Last time i looked we all had 46 chromosomes and guess what? most of the genetic material is identical among us. What does that make us? Brethren you bozos!
Facts are humans are flawed, inconsistent, manipulative and selfish animals like every other in the animal kingdom. Motivation is survival and reproduction. In our case, comforts, control and sublimation of others to enhance our control of resources to ensue our most comfortable survival. Cynical am I? of course, we are animals first. I hold no great contempt for humanity as there is much beauty in all of us, existing but the fact remains that humans are the most selfish of animals, tribal and biased in nature an our history reflects that. Although our trappings of civilization have changes over the ages, human nature evolves at less than a snails pace. The point of al of this rambling? You are all correct and you are all wrong. Why because you are human and think inside the box rather than trying to take a view outside of it.
Cheers! the Doc
July 18, 2008 at 4:48 am |
“THERE IS NOTHING MORE FRIGHTENING THAN ACTIVE IGNORANCE.”
– Goethe
Sween says inbreeding? Oh boy! There is not another race with as many inbreeding problems as the Jews, especially mental illnesses (I am being kind here!)
Here is an article on that from The Jewish Daily FORWARD Aug 25, 2006:
Are the Jews an “ill people”? Well, there is a history to this. In the United States, the National Foundation for Jewish Genetic Diseases has identified nine genetic diseases as “being the most common among Jews of Eastern European or Ashkenazi descent.” The diseases include Tay-Sachs; Bloom’s syndrome, in which about 10% of those affected also have diabetes; Canavan disease, a progressive neurological disorder; dystonia, which affects movement control; Fanconi anemia, which often leads to leukemia; familial dysautonomia, a disease of the nervous system; Gaucher disease, a metabolic disorder; Niemann-Pick disease, a neurodegenerative disorder, and the most recently discovered “Jewish” genetic disease, mucolipidosis, a neurological disorder
If you are going to make statements like this you ignorant sod, at least research it. Your English btw is atrocious, and you are not impressing anybody with your redneck, idiotic ramblings.
July 18, 2008 at 6:24 am |
wow. after reading this, there is no question that this world is going to end soon. and deservingly so. I hope you’re all right with God. I’ve no doubt you all will be meeting your Maker soon. Please, clean out your hearts! By the way, Jesus was a Jew. And he is the only one who can save you.
July 18, 2008 at 6:35 am |
Alright, if we’re going to discuss disorder and the like, Invictus, it is generally accepted that the entire human race agrees on standard morality. Part of being a civilized human-being is knowing right from wrong. Surely every Nazi doctor or scientist had to study science and would know that humans belong to the same species. As white people, (which I am, and Protestant on top of that) we have a number of genetic diseases that started in our gene-pool, one of them being Asperger’s Syndrome which was discovered by Hans Asperger (an Austrian war-time doctor, and former Hitler youth) who discovered the “NEUROLOGICAL DISORDER” in his patients (who I’m sure were nice little white kids). It is possible for me to discuss more neurological diseases in detail if you want to continue arguing. My point: Scientifically (since you appear to be a man of science) we are ALL one species. Don’t quote Goethe: THERE IS NOTHING MORE FRIGHTENING THAN ACTIVE IGNORANCE. Active ignorance is denying that we are all a member of the same species and are inherently the same in every physical way. Animals kill each other because they are not educated to love or care for anything besides themselves. Malice and hatred aren’t considered NORMAL or MENTALLY HEALTHY by any standard. Just so all of you “Nazi kindern” know, there aren’t even any Neo-Nazi groups in Germany, . . . do you know why? Germany is ashamed of that part of their history. In my life, every German person I have personally known (13), from liberal to conservative, agree that Nazi-ism is wrong and completely unfounded. If you want to prove yourself a superior race, spend less time hating everyone and more time perfecting the United States. If you believe Jewish people are ruining the economy, YOU need to make it better by doing something besides hating and killing to actively improve it. If you believe that you are superior, do something to prove that you are. Spouting out Nazi memorandum in a language of a people that hate you and what you stand for is ignorant. You don’t belong in an ideal human society. If there are 100 people and 10 of them hate the other 90, it means the 10 have to get over it or start thinking more clearly. You can’t hate and kill everyone that disagrees with you. People will get sick of it, and, eventually, someone will destroy all of you ignorant people one by one. Meanwhile, all of us in the intelligent realm of society will read, learn, and get along. You should join our “new solution” . . . it is THE ONLY SOLUTION, because your kind are finished.
July 18, 2008 at 9:36 am |
Intolerance is created by a lack of true education.
A religous zealot is no better than a racist bigot, neither can be bothered to accept even half truths about others if it doesnt fit in with their narrow views. Most people on this forum, who can take a balanced view, are allready one step ahead in the humanity race.
Understand someone else and you probably wont want to destroy them, you will be probably just be happy to ignore them if they dont bother you (and before you start with your bullshit stereotypes, stop and ask yourself what have induviduals actually done to you).
Like it or not we can all only be really sure that we will have only one life each and do you really want to spend all that time hating someone you dont even know and probably doesnt really give a fuck about you anyway!!
July 18, 2008 at 10:54 am |
Huh!!?? I don’t understand how some poeple can write what they have, Jewish people are the same as any other people in the world. They deserve to be treated with respect just like any one else. I can honestly say that if I met someone of Jewish Faith I wouldn’t even know unless they told me!!! This guy, regardless of age, needs to pay for these terrible things that have been done to human beings.
July 18, 2008 at 3:47 pm |
why haven’t they gone after arnold schwarzenager or his father who was in the SS
July 18, 2008 at 7:10 pm |
Chris,
Your comments are absolute rubbish, and I believe that you know it.
The entire human race agrees on a standard morality? What nonsense! I have traveled all over the world, and every single Race/Culture has a different concept of morality!
What is moral to you, an American (I think you are) is not moral to someone living in Asia for example. I presume therefore, that you know nothing or very little about other cultures. Iraq is a good case.
The genetic diseases of Jews are caused by inbreeding. Period. This inbreeding was caused by the belief that they are infinitely superior to everyone else, A belief that is present to this day. You are simply repeating the nonsensical propaganda fed to the world .
Where have I said that I hate Jews? You want to experience hate? Go to Israel, especially the west bank, and see what Israelis think about the Arabs. The saying there is that a Jewish fingernail is worth more than a 10000 Arabs, and all Arabs should be expelled, at the very least. Most settlers want them dead! And don’t tell me about the Israeli peace movement, it’s to small to count. Your knowledge concerning that subject is zero. According to you, only Nazis hate….what nonsense. Applying that to the west bank settlers, would you call them Nazis?
Regarding Neo-Nazi groups, Europe is full of them, get your facts straight.
Your interpretation of Goethe’s quote is yours… may I suggest you read the man, before you spew anymore nonsense. One of his other quotes is:
“A person hears only what they understand”
Fits you perfectly.
July 18, 2008 at 7:58 pm |
I am a French catholic by descent. My uncle spent time in a work camp in Germany. When he visited me in 1997, I told him there are those Americans who deny the Holocaust existed. He became enraged and spoke about the war for the first time. He sent me documents when he returned to France, along with the admonition to let me son know what happened, so that no one may ever forget.
My uncle is no friend of Israel, but lived through the Nazi regime and saw what happened to innocents because they were Jewish. The end does not justify the means, and the events of the Holocaust are every bit as horrible now as they were then.
I don’t think white supremacy will ever die, however. Ignorance has wings and a very short memory.
July 18, 2008 at 9:48 pm |
I AM STARTING A bLOG ON THIS ONE…ANYONE INYTERESTED?
July 22, 2009 at 8:29 pm |
Don’t you understand anything? “There is nothing more frightening than active ignorance!” Goethe’s about you!
July 22, 2009 at 8:29 pm |
Don’t you understand anything? “There is nothing more frightening than active ignorance!” Goethe’s talking about you!
July 18, 2008 at 10:12 pm |
HEY….EVERYBODY….NAZI’S AND NAZI HATERS…..WHAT ABOUT THOSE STEELERS THIS YEAR???? GO STEELERS!!!!!!
July 18, 2008 at 10:25 pm |
Inbreeding, a? Did you pat yourself on the back Invictus? Or did you have your old peppy do it for you?
My friend, the biggest reason that the Jews have genetic disorders is because of the atrocity inflicted upon Jews by your goy kind. It is called “a pale of settlement” numnuts. Since Jews were kept in small ghettoes all throughout Europe (thank G-d for America) and because your bloodthirsty red-neck kind regularly made sure to kill an acceptable number of Jews (whatever your Metropoliticus Antesimiticus directed you to do) they were forced to intermarry with close relatives; second, third cousins. So it unfortunately had some effect on the following generations.
It however was a different from a willing, animal like copulation with a sister, father, mother that you guys are so famous for. There. I wonder what Dr. Freud would say about an Anti-Semitism as a side effect of inbreeding.
By the way, in case you missed it Genius, my English was not atrocious, it was written in such a way that you can understand it. Guess you almost did.
Don’t forget to have your sister blow me.
July 19, 2008 at 2:21 am |
An appropriate for of punishment for such a vile freak:
Attach his feet to chains at the bottom of a large pool just an inch higher than his height.
Have the survivors of the camps surround the pool and drink GERMAN BEER and piss in the pool until it fills to the brim.
Let the Nazi pig drown in Jewish PISS created from the drinking of German beer!
Very fitting.
July 19, 2008 at 2:32 am |
One Jewish fingernail is worth more than 10000 Arabs? I’m sure an Arab on the Gaza Strip would say 1 Arab fingernail is worth 10000 Israelis. These opinions have a lot to do with the events taking place right now. The hate that exists there is a two way street. Stop villifying Jews for whats going on in the Middle East it only concerns Israelis, not Jews and there IS a difference. My argument from all the way at the tippy top of this page was that you cannot blame all Jews for something the Israeli government and military is doing. Just like you cannot blame all Muslims for the extremist and terrorist groups that exist is the world.
Invictus, there are evils committed in the middle east by many different groups. The Israelis, Islamic militia, and the American and even British army as well. I’m jumping to a conclusion that you’re British judging by your spelling of some words, correct me if I’m wrong. So don’t single out the Israelis and certainly don’t refer to them as “The Jews”. You have to recognise the acts of everyone. And the Israeli peace movement may be bigger than you think. As we speak extended peace accords between Israel and several other Middle Eastern countries are being negotiated. The days of Sharon are over and the days of aggressive Israel seem to be (God willing) coming to an end.
I happen to agree that a standard morality exists in the human race. Christianity, Islam and Judaism all follow the 10 commandments and that’s roughly 55% of the Earth’s population. Every countrys’ respective government recognises that taking another life in cold blood should result in punishment. All countries will have some different morals but I think its apt to say a Standard Morality exists.
Bringing up Tay-Sachs Disease is just low. TSD also exists in French-Canada and Cajuns areas of the Southern USA, I don’t think there’s alot of Jews there though, so it may just be a social group disease. Sickle Cell Anaemia mainly exists in black people, did they inbreed too??? Or is it more to do with where a person’s ancestry lies. The diseases you mentioned are only documented to affect Ashkenazi Jews (Jews from Eastern Europe) which is once again not EVERY Jewish person on Earth. There are also Sephardi Jews and Mizrahi Jews. AND you’re seriously confusing inbreeding with Endogamy. Because the Ashkenazi Jews were affected by among other things the Pale of Settlement and were forced to stay in designated areas against their will and NOT by choice as you seem to have been told. Endogamy, or procreation within a social group NOT a family (although second and third cousins could have been possible possible), would have to have occurred or they would have simply died out. Please do not refer to something that the Jews were put through as something they chose. It’s disgusting.
And its a good thing Ashkenazi Jews didnt die out! Do you admire the work of Noam Chomsky?
Ashkenazi Jew.
Do you enjoy the music of Bob Dylan?
Ashkenazi Jew. (by background, I know he was a Born Again Christian in the seventies, no idea what he is now)
Did you study the works of Albert Einstein?
Ashkenazi Jew.
Do you at least recognise the peace in the middle east that existed in the 1990’s due to among other people, Yitzhak Rabin?
Ashkenazi Jew.
I could very much go on, do you think all these people were/are evil Jews?
The facts, as I see them, are that it is widely known that the Talmud is misinterpretted on purpose to claim Jews hate non Jews. Communism was not a tool of Judaism, this is another common anti-semitic mistake. And the endogamy that existed in Eastern European Jewish ghettos was forced upon them. Even if things were as you say they are Invictus (and they’re not), that would have absolutely nothing to do with Jews who are alive today, merely those who were alive during these respective times.
To you Invictus I recommend, if you haven’t already, to read “Night ” by Nobel Peace Prize winner, Elie Wiesel. Regardless of your opinion of the man himself, as I’m sure you’ll have one, the book gives a perspective on the Holocaust even you may empathize with. Also…
Ashkenazi Jew.
I think intolerance can stem from two seperate forms. Ignorance via a lack of education, and racism via upbringing or a general skewed outlook on the world despite some intelligence existing. I don’t bother with ignorant people but racists are fucking dangerous.
Also go Raiders.
September 12, 2009 at 10:49 pm |
Yes, Anon, I’m sure “Invictus” is British; in fact I’d go further and suggest, from his moniker, that he is from the beautiful county of Kent which, sadly, he makes that bit less beautiful by his presence. He does seem somewhat more erudite than the average tattoo’d, BNP-voting, bull-dog-owning, neo-Nazi thug, rather like the intellectual leader of the neo-Nazi group in American History X, but Nazi scum nonetheless.(How many hits did I score there “Invictus”?)
His kind are not morons; they say what they say for a reason and that reason is propaganda. They want the Holocaust to be ” a lie” because then they can say the 20th century fascists weren’t so bad after all, maybe we can use their methods as a template for “solving” 21st century “problems” such as immigration, race relations, crime etc (oh and don’t forget every little fascist loves his trains to run on time, that can’t be a bad thing can it?)
Thinking about it though, why the hell are we all actually dignifying this cocksucker with serious responses to his poisonous postings? (‘Cos I suppose if we didn’t he might think he’d “won” and we couldn’t allow that, could we?)
July 19, 2008 at 7:33 pm |
Slowly but surely, people like sween are proving my point with their emotional and historically inaccurate claptrap. Of course, you are never wrong, or is it that the “goy” is too stupid? (I don’t use the word “goy” as it is a derogatory, offensive and pejorative term used by Jews for non-Jews, although the origin meant “Nation”, it is not meant as such now, want to lecture me on this one?). I’ve got news for you. Your time to bullshit the rest of the world came to an end long ago. No matter how you sliver and slide, there will be someone there to question your nonsense.
The “Pale of Settlement” comprised an area equal to 20% of European Russia. A Ghetto? I think not. They could live anywhere in that area, but could not cross the eastern border. The Pale corresponded to historical borders of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and included much of present-day Lithuania, Belarus, Poland, Bessarabia, Ukraine. The fact is the Jews felt they should live in their qwn communities, as they felt safer and would not be “contaminated” by non-Jews. Of course today it is being turned into “Ghettos” that the poor Jews had to live in.
Yes, in certain countries Jews were made to live in certain areas in and out of town, but these areas were hardly ghettos, as historical texts prove over and over. So let’s stop this whining about the poor victims, it just doesn’t wash anymore.
Anon, I know you are trying your very best to make all Jews look in a positive light…of course their are many that deserve our respect….without doubt. (Although Elie Wiesel
is not someone who I would consider to be too truthful).
But tell me this:
Why is it that the miss deeds of Jews are never discussed? Go ahead, tell me about the Ashkenazi Jews that have have been involved in white collar crime, mass murder (such as the 60 million killed in prewar Russia, when The NKVD was 38.5% Jewish), deceit etc, etc. What;s wrong with admitting that Jews have been part of many atrocities committed in the world? Why is it that the state of Israel harbors more fugitive criminals than ANY other state?
http://timelessismore.blogspot.com/2007/07/israel-as-safe-haven-of-ex-communist.html
Heaven forbid that the world should find out how we have been deceived for so long.
http://archive.salon.com/books/int/2000/08/30/finkelstein/
This will be interesting, as Finkelstein is portrayed as a Jewish maniac that might destroy the Shoa business.
Of course discussing it is uncomfortable and might destroy the nonsense that has been perpetrated over the last few decades.
“IN A TIME OF UNIVERSAL DECEIT, TELLING THE TRUTH
IS A REVOLUTIONARY ACT.”
– George Orwell
July 20, 2008 at 11:17 am |
Isn’t it kind of pathological hunting down these old men while millions of mexicans stream across our border, causing real-time problems? Get a LIFE
August 25, 2008 at 4:23 am |
Those who rant about “liberals” being responsible for everything that’s wrong with the world are little different from the Nazis who blamed Jews for 100% of Germany’s problems.
It may be true that many people who describe themselves as liberal demonize Israel and think of its bloodthirsty neighbors as poork downtrodden victims. In the diaspora, Jews have been among the major proponents of humanitarian and progessive social programs. There were a number of Jews, but no Arabs that I know of, who lost their lives helping southern blacks exercise their right to vote.
A true liberal uses the power of reason. Hard-core Jew haters do not.
And let’s not tar Heim’s children with the same brush he deserves. At the present time they’re petitioning to have him declared dead (he’d be 94) and his savings released. Their intention is to spend the money honoring holocaust victims and documenting the horrors their father committed.
Sometimes the apple falls a long way from the tree.
August 25, 2008 at 12:08 pm |
You know the blindness by people makes me think the lack of knowledge and tolerance the world has. First, the holocaust did happen. Countless documents and video show that the destruction by the Nazi regime to Jews and non-jews (yes non-jews were targets—Hitler looked for the perfect race and being white did not mean you were OK). Second, Stalin was not controlled by Jews. He killed countless Jews and non-jews as well but his reasoning was not the perfect race as Hitler did but because he was against all dissidents (i.e. political). Third, for all those Nazi sympathizers who claim to have Jewish friends, it seems that your so-called Jewish friends must either hate their race or really don’t know your intent. Fourth, not all liberals are pro-Nazi or anti-Jew but it does seem liberals do target Israel and try to sympathize with it’s neighbors. Finally, the doctor clearly enjoyed his work of massacreing people as many documents show, he was not just taking orders.
August 25, 2008 at 2:04 pm |
Invictus – where is your blog?
I am very interested in all of this conversation.
Oh yeah – why hunt him down? Well, because even a 90 year old man deserves to be held accountable for his crimes. The guilt that might exist (I say might because I think he has issues to do what he did people) from commiting the crimes is something that every criminal lives with and isn’t enough, in my opinion, to count as justice.
August 29, 2008 at 4:36 pm |
invictus may i ask how you can let scum such as H Himmler to join in a discussion that effects so many people as well as religions and nations. And to answer your question on why he should be hunted down? the answer is simple because that so called human being killed over 100,000 people there are haulocausts that didn’t kill that many and he didn’t just kill jews. americans, british, french, russians and many others were slaughtered and turned into ornaments for his home and office. i agree with some people it’s pointless killing or imprisoning a 90 year old man but he should have to answer for what he’s done in some way because a river of blood the size that he created cannot be ignored. i also have other reasons for him to be brought to justice.
September 3, 2008 at 12:51 am |
[...] aribert heim, ‘dokter dood’ van concentratiekamp mauthausen [...]
September 14, 2008 at 9:07 pm |
[[“Make his equally repulsive children watch”- How are the children equally repulsive.It’s not as if they’re responsible for his actions. They are just byproducts of a horrible human being]]
I bet I’ll be called an anti-semite now, but its the great Jewish law of justice(?) – sins of the father.
Other than that, its too late. Even if they get Dr. Heim, he’s 94 and he can just laugh in their faces knowing he got away with it all. Sad, but true
[[There were a number of Jews, but no Arabs that I know of, who lost their lives helping southern blacks exercise their right to vote.]]
Out of how many Arabs who lived there exactly??? Not to mention Arabs would be considered black by the southerns anyway.
[[it seems that your so-called Jewish friends must either hate their race]]
With all due respect, being Jew is actually a religion, not a race.
[[Finally, the doctor clearly enjoyed his work of massacreing people as many documents show, he was not just taking orders.]]
Thats obvious I think
October 14, 2008 at 8:37 am |
All the different opinions & beliefs are good even though not all agreeable. To be able to express one’s own belief is freedom
The most disturbing thing with the Nazi regime is how sooo many ordinary people followed one idea “hitler”. Millions of ordinary citizens gave up their own freedom to become part of something..
This monster Dr ? chose to do these terrible things
In 2008 with all the terror, economic crisis & people feeling deprived will another hitler come along and ALL remain silent again -
November 11, 2008 at 1:55 am |
It was a great war, not like today when in Israeli palestinians are slaughtered
November 18, 2008 at 1:08 pm |
What all of you think doesn’t matter.
November 23, 2008 at 6:37 pm |
Hmm.. Either way. If Heim is alive… I will admire his work in discust, because if it weren’t for people as horrible as him and the nazi’s, then the ‘worst’ would be average people who express our oppinion. You see? Whether the world’s past is ‘good’ or ‘bad’ it matters not. All of this shaped the freedom we have, and it will continue to shape.. Also, for the one above who said ‘Seig Hail’ i feel you are just trying to stand out. also.. your cross has to have a tilt. If it’s squared off its a Christian symbol not a nazi symbol
Oh and one last thing. If Heim is in fact alive. he shall live in fear and have to look back at all the horrible things he’s done. Nobody has the right to take a life that is not theirs to take. (Note: I did not capitalize nazi because they do not deserve the respect)
January 19, 2009 at 7:30 am |
I can’t stand Nazi lovers they make me sick, I feel sorry for jewish people, they have it worse than black people. jewish people go through a lot. But to all you Nazi Fuckers! you can kiss my BLACK ASS! I Love jews they Rule BABY Yeah!
February 4, 2009 at 7:54 pm |
Looks like he can be marked off the list…..
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090204/ap_on_re_eu/eu_germany_nazi_hunting_1
German report: Most wanted Nazi died in 1992
BERLIN – Germany’s ZDF TV is reporting it has found documents proving that the world’s most-wanted Nazi war criminal, concentration camp doctor Aribert Heim, died in Cairo in 1992.
ZDF says Heim was living under a pseudonym and had converted to Islam by the time of his death from intestinal cancer.
It says it found his passport, application for a residence permit, bank slips, personal letters and medical documents, which were left behind by Heim in the hotel room where he lived under the name Tarek Farid Hussein.
It reported Wednesday that witnesses, including Heim’s son Ruediger Heim, confirmed Heim and Hussein were the same man.
Simon Wiesenthal Center head Nazi hunter Efraim Zuroff said he has not seen the documents but if true the news is, “earth shattering.”
February 4, 2009 at 8:18 pm |
R.I.P
February 4, 2009 at 8:59 pm |
Fuck all the Kike bastards, imagine how many more of these cockroaches there would have been if not for the concentration camps
July 22, 2009 at 8:36 pm |
You can’t even spell death, you fucking moron
February 4, 2009 at 9:47 pm |
Either way.. this all happened because of a man who was genius in a certain aspect of life. Politics, right? To be honest.. These people just believed this was how they were supposed to live their life, so they did as instructed or as how they thought right.
However, they did kill jews for the reason that they were taking all their jobs, wasn’t the original idea just to get rid of jews and other nationalities from Germany? To free up jobs for people who had ancestory there? Their idealogy went out of proportion and was exceedingly cruel and unfair. But everyone has different opinions on everything.
And look… As nazi’s hate Jews, and are pretty racist altogether, majority of you will hate Nazi’s and/or another political party, group or race. My dad’s racist, and pretty nazi himself. He took it upon himself to have a raging row on me for arguing the rights of asians, jews and any other ‘immigrants’. It’s funny.. how we all become stereotypical, and hating on something like this.. Yet we forget that everyone’s just another person, maybe they have a fucked up mind. Or are different to others.
Yes, I hate this guy’s mindset, and how he thought he had to react to other people. And I’m sorry for all the people that had to die during Hitler’s dictatorship. But they had their own reasons.. even if they were fucked up and completely and utterly morally wrong.
[this probably went way off subject, but you know..]
February 4, 2009 at 10:25 pm |
Have been reading all these rediculous comments of all religions here, me being jewish. All I can say is that each and every one of us is good and bad. It does not matter what we say here, G-d will be our judge one day. If you are christian, love your neighbour and remember, your G-d jesus, was a Jew, like me and a Rabbi to boot. Wow, you must really hate Jesus?
February 4, 2009 at 10:33 pm |
People don’t realize that while the nazi regime was being formed within Germany, they were ordered to kill their OWN people before they started on anyone else. They sterilised, murdered, tortured & raped their own people. They then went on to continue these digusting acts on anyone else who dared be “different” not just the Jews. I find it funny that still today you dumb fucks who still believe in Hitler & the nazi regime think that it’s ok to anialiate your own kind as well as any other race. It isn’t absolute, it’s delusion. But you must always remember, that one person rose to this kind of power, controlled so much & gained absolutely nothing but a shameful history for the german people. Kinda amazing isn’t it….
P.S All you dumb fat Americans who call yourself Neo Nazi’s…Ummmm why? You aren’t a part of Germany…
February 4, 2009 at 11:43 pm |
OK, Mr. Invictus.
I’ve asking 16 Jews and 14 consider themselves Americans first and Jews second. One of these is a World War II Vet. So I guess you’re wrong.
By the way, what have you done to serve your country?
February 5, 2009 at 12:11 am |
Young Germans have very difficult situation. But people in Germany are too much in “order”. They listen and they want to have their peace so mostly they do it what they are told to do. Maybe this is changing in a new generation.
February 5, 2009 at 12:36 am |
Why all the hate?
February 5, 2009 at 1:07 am |
sounds like he was a sob from the start.. rest in hell ……no one needs a ass hole like that ..
February 5, 2009 at 1:37 am |
Can you feel the love? Maybe we could all chill the beans a bit instead of having an all out comment war. Anon has the right approach to his/her thinking at least. Its the 21st century, stop throwing everyone in the same basket. As for the Neo-Nazi douchebags, its ironic that your crippling lack of knowledge makes you less useful to the world than any “lesser race”
February 5, 2009 at 3:36 am |
Criminal Minds – BLOODLINE episode
If you think there will never be another Holocaust – think again. The target of this show are Roma (Gypsies).
What I find offensive and degrading is that this furthers the ancient negative stereotype – that Gypsies (Rom) steal young children. Except in this case, the stereotype goes way off the deep end, in that the Rom in the story are also twisted psychopaths and ritual killers, as they kill the parents of the children – and at times the children.
In this episode they kidnap a 10 year old girl, but first murder her parents. Then when the girl turns out unsuitable, they dump her body into a ravine and leave her for dead. Then they go and abduct another little girl.
While it is just entertainment to most Americans this show and episode will air in countries where Gypsies are still persecuted, like Italy.
Refugee Roma are presently experiencing a humanitarian crisis in Italy as they are the target of constant public malice and violence. They are forced to live in squalid designated (KZ) camps without housing, water, utilities, sanitation or public services.
Their camps are frequently raided by angry lynch mobs, and razed and torched to the ground, while the helpless residents are forced to flee for their lives.
The last lynch mob incident that caused an uproar (heard around the world) was because a 15 year old Gypsy girl was accused of attempting to steal a 6 month old baby.
A show like this will justify and incite more violence against the Roma.
I filed a FCC violation against VIACOM and CBS
I would appreciate it if others would join my protest.
FCC.GOV
It is very simple, just go to the FCC website FCC.GOV and follow the “FILE A COMPLAINT” link. The online form takes only a few minutes to complete and submits instantly.
Incidentally, my Grandmother was one of Aribert Heim’s victims at Mauthausen.
Thank you for your help. Never again!
February 5, 2009 at 4:15 am |
Who cares??? This stuff happened so long ago, who really gives a crap. The JDL is only worried because once all the Old Nazi’s die, they will lose a big money maker. As for those who say they wish the USA was more like Israel, because they don’t take any shit….they get away with that crap because of the Jewish lobby in this country. Myself…I say screw them. Let them figure out how to live with their Arab cousins alone. I’m so tried of hearing how the Jews are so picked on and helpless. Joshua was no sweet gut when he was slaughtering the Cannanites and all the others living in the area way back when. Even after WW2 when the Allies gave the Jews Palestine who were the terrorist then? The Jews are no better than the Arab terrorist the cry about.
We will always have genocide and war and bad things, because humans, while we like the idea of peace love and getting along, will always have someone who wants more…for himself or his country. We have things like Cambodia in the 70’s, Rawanda and the Balkans. People who hate some group or section of society and when they find a way to power…they are ready to torch the world. Even in Iraq now…it only takes 1 or 2 people to cause a problem and make it look like something from the otherside…and they do it just to cause hate and discontent. To keep people scared and distrustful. Look at how long people in Iraq and Yugoslavia lived together in peace. Maybe not under a great situation, but everyone got along. Then the fist that made everyone get along goes away and then friends are suddenly enemies. Human nature is not prefect. Then you have the people of all kinds who spend so much time whining about the past…get over it and let’s move forward. To me Israel is not our friend, only our adopted step child. They spy on us and have knowingly attacked us. For countries like that who say they are our friends…we don’t need them. Any country that smiles in out face while the check our wallets, cut them loose.
February 5, 2009 at 2:35 pm |
That Nazi-criminal is burning right now in ETERNAL HELL, where he belongs together with Hitler, Göring, Eichmann, Bormann and other monsters !!!
February 5, 2009 at 2:36 pm |
Jesus loves you.
February 5, 2009 at 3:48 pm |
Is there any doubt that God loves mankind? After reading the above I am convinced beyond a doubt that he does. If he didn’t he would whack all of us and be done with it. Only a parent could put up with the crap we as a race manufacture. We see innocents being slaughtered and our first question is “what country is that?” instead of the real atrocity that they are all our own women and children. The human race could make the world a utopia if we could put away our stupidity.
February 5, 2009 at 4:38 pm |
i dont think it is even worth talking about what the nazi scum did.but why they did it? it is my opinion that most of them did what they did because of basically one man and his haterid towards the jewish kind It appears that, contrary to what he says in ‘Mein Kampf’, Hitler’s extreme antisemitism only arose towards the end of World War 1 or even later, possibly only when he found that it was the easiest way of producing wild cheering in the beer halls of Munich. so…. he knew that it whould give him the kind of publicity that he needed to do what he wanted to do. clever man? or an idiot? and no. i do not admire this scum in any way.
February 5, 2009 at 5:31 pm |
please enlighten me…
are there any proof that egyptians had jew-slaves?
(I haven’t found any. I do not reckon bible as proof.)
when one says jesus was a jew as to defend jews(?).
should one not also keep in mind that supposedly jesus was not that keen to being jew, if he sacrificed himself for his new posse, christians.
(For me it seems that god wasn’t that pleased with jews, if he decided his son should form a new group. Does this not mean the very same god abandoned jews?)
do jews not see anything wrong about raping palestine and taking their land with force. after all what right do they even have for that land.
).In the states there would have been loads of land for them, but to steal land from another nation:( , things could have been handled in some other way. Some say that israel was “put” there to cut through islamic nations.
(I think it’s wrong, jews invaded palestine(ok some blame go to Great Britain and other countries aswell). In my opinion jews should have moved to somewhere in united states(would have been their own fault for freeing jews
I do not have any solution for the conflict between israel and muslim radicals. Maybe u.s could drop one of their a-bombs? Worked fine with Japan :/ only pondering not being serious though.
just interested in your thoughts. and yes my blabbering is completely off topic
…what comes to albert heim – a twat that’s what he was.
February 5, 2009 at 11:21 pm |
I suppose it would be to much to ask that we drop the Jewish & Nazi thing & simply agree that Heim was a sick vicious SOB that should have been punished for his acts.
February 6, 2009 at 12:26 am |
i pity these so called (criminals of war) it was not a war on there side……it was a mass steilasation,an unbeleaveable series of undescribible tourtures.the experiments carried out on those poor souls are unspeakable and when (human beings)carry out these kind of unspeakable things then they ar no longer human beings. to me they are something between that white stuff that accumulates on the corner of your mouth when your really really thirsty and afterbirth. you may ask why i pity them? do i know the meaning of pity is? Pity implies tender or sometimes slightly contemptuous sorrow or empathy for a person or people in misery, pain, or distress. In regard to humans, a protective or quasi-paternal feeling of pity may be felt towards marginalized or impoverished people such as homeless families; orphans; people with disabilities or terminal illness, and victims of rape and torture. People who have previously experienced the pain or misfortune in question. if you have the least bit of intelligence you will know what i am saying. i hope:)
February 6, 2009 at 12:36 am |
well thats what i think. what do you think, let me know. and no more nazi scum. well…scum who think there nazis. who dont even know the facts. please do us all a nice:) big:) favour:) GO DO A RUN AND JUMP.
February 6, 2009 at 1:26 am |
I personally have sworn to never hate a man, woman, or child based on his or her religion, race, or any other charecteristic. Perhaps the sadistic neo-nazis could try it as well. It hurts me that they could hate people they never met. You CANNOT classify anybody based on their religion, race, gender, ect. For example I am German, but I am not a nazi, my dad is from Baltimore and black, but he is not in a gang,and my best friend is catholic, but she feels that woman should have the right to make their own decisions about their bodies. I don’t want to sound self righteous but people need to stop the hatred towards people who don’t deserve it. People are beautiful, and unless they are sadistic ane cruel like Aribert Heim and some of the previous posters, they shoulden’t be discriminated against or hated.
February 6, 2009 at 1:59 am |
I am an Orthodox Christian from Kiev, Ukraine, and my grand parents remember the Jews being rounded up taken to Baby Yar and shot in cold blood. Thousands of them.
Hard to call it Zionist propaganda while the people who witnessed the massacres are still alive, don’t you think?
February 6, 2009 at 2:44 am |
As for all the neo – Nazi’s on here; you need to realize, Hitler himself would have shot you – on sight!
Reason #1 You are Asocial @ss Clowns.
Reason #2 You are Idiots.
Asocial @ss Clowns – because you worship a twisted and FAILED ideology.
Idiots – because the idols you worship (Hitler and his @ss clown minions) are all a bunch of LOSERS, who couldn’t even win a war, not just once … but twice!
When Germans followed Hitler they didn’t know that he was going to lose the war. They had pie in the sky and victory in their eyes, all while Hitler was securing Germany’s distinction of being the most miserably defeated, and reviled nation on the face of the earth!
You neo dumb @sses know how it all turns out, yet here you are, still Goose Stepping and yelling Hail Schickelgruber!
February 6, 2009 at 3:12 am |
Not defending the nazi’s and the atrocities they’ve commited i would not call them stupid, because they planned and knew what they were doing, and some of them were so clever even to escape the latter procecution of justice, to the jews my hearth go out to all the victims and all of you whom are still suffering from the trauma caused by some mad men during the last war, it is my personal opinion that we don’t have to lose sight of this
February 6, 2009 at 10:34 am |
I dont know about arab they love nazi party very much but I may self hated the nazi I am an arab. in this world we have many parties ex nizi i hated them all I wish they all die way they killed all these pepole just becouse thier black or juweish we all pepole we all have hearts please think of my words .
thank you
February 6, 2009 at 4:05 pm |
Thank God I’m an atheist!
February 6, 2009 at 5:57 pm |
what nazi has done totally wrong. all acts of nazi against the humanity. nazi must punished.
February 7, 2009 at 2:05 am |
heim, the monster that he was, should not have been tried at his age, but MADE to answer questions and give detailed accounts of what happened in the camps under his order and of that of the nazi regime.
anyone know how many nazi’s of ww2 are still alive ??
July 1, 2009 at 5:50 pm |
Fewer by the year (smile)
February 7, 2009 at 4:46 pm |
Does it really matter if many former Nazis are still alive. They’re all feable old men at this time. As for Dr. Heim, if what he is alleged to have done is true, he did a lot of bad early in his life. However, as time goes on, most of us change. A lot of people were sucked into National Socialism and did terrible things. Heim went on and changed his life. He entered Islam, saught the forgiveness of God (Muslims believe that if one enters Islam, his/her past sins are forgiven and they are as sin-free as a new born baby). They Jewish community really has to move on. They are not the only people on Earth that have suffered persecution. Perhaps they should What else do a little soul searching themselves as to why such a thing would happen. Maybe years of abusing and cheating lead to a ‘pay back’ in the 1930’s and 40’s? Whatwill they have have to gripe about when the last of the privates and corporals of the SS finally die in the next few years? Many are getting sick of hearing about the holocaust (yes, I DO believe it happened) and at the same time hearing about Israeli (Jewish) oppression of Palestinians.
February 11, 2009 at 2:33 pm |
Justice serves two purposes – punish/reform offenders & DETER potential future offenders.
Some things cannot be forgiven or forgotten, regardless of whether the offender has ‘changed’ or not. Some souls / spirits cannot be cleansed, salvaged or saved. We should always remember that religion was created by man (whether inspired by a GOD can be argued) to serve man. In other words – religion can be conceived as self-serving, but I don’t want to get into that arguement.
Anyways – this isn’t about the supernatural / spiritual aspect of redemption or condemnation. It’s about the harsh reality of life. Anything other than strict justice serves only to encourage future atrocities.
February 7, 2009 at 8:02 pm |
Bilal – you should care about the Holocaust, and the criminals who perpetrated mass murder upon millions of innocent people. To you it is very long ago, and you may be blinded by your own political agenda.
You must step out of your own situation, strip away current politics or even the politics in Holocaust times, and see this from a more humanistic and spiritual perspective.
The perpetrators and the victims of the Holocaust may be dead and dying off, but they leave behind families that are still, after all these many years, negatively impacted.
The Holocaust isn’t all about the six million Jews that died or were killed. The estimated human toll was 47,661,800 civilian deaths, and 25,280,100 military deaths. That is a total of 72,941,900 families ruined – all around the world.
The victims and their families lost EVERYTHING you can possibly imagine! A family can’t come back from that in a few years, or even a few decades. Never mind that they lost all their money, any and all of their lands and property, along with their birth right to live in the countries where their families have lived and died, and had been established for centuries. Can you imagine the psychological misery of being deported, killed, persecuted, hunted and then have to be homesick – all at the same time?
But all that is marginal compared to the fact that the victims lost their loved ones. They lost their children, their fathers and their mothers, and countless children had to grow up as orphans. Many had to grow up in single parent households without the contributions of help, love and support a father, mother, uncle, aunt or grandparents would normally offer. The Holocaust will not be over for those families – for many more generations to come.
I can attest to this human toll. My family lost everything! What the Fascist’s didn’t get around to destroying and taking the Communist finished off later. My mother lost most of her family including her mother, she spent her formative years in fear as she and her family were being hunted, running and hiding, only to end up in the camps. The experience left her half crazy. You don’t think being raised by a half crazy Holocaust survivor (angst ridden) mother had a negative effect on me and my life? And in turn on my children? I grew up with virtually no extended family to speak of, as did my own children. All our family gatherings for special occasions, for generations now, included only a handful of people. I never knew my own grandmother. My family is still digging their way out from under – in more tangible aspects as well. The last person in my family to graduate from college was my grandfather in the 1920’s. My children, 3 generations later, are the first in my family to do so again.
This same story rings true, countless times – all around the world.
The Holocaust isn’t all about the Jews. The mass migration of humanity that was caused by the Holocaust has had a far reaching impact on our planet, and has shaped the negative politics that plague us today.
The long reaching effects, and the human toll, should therefore be considered before making light of war criminals, and the atrocities committed while at war. And when we forget … a cataclysmic catastrophe like that can, and will happen again.
February 9, 2009 at 10:02 pm |
How sad it is to see we haven’t progressed one iota since the end of WWII! Probably none of you was even born in the 40’s, yet you display the same hatred that epitomized the era. How sad it is for your children that you have passed along the same bigotries and hatred that you undoubtedly had passed along to you at a young age. You were cheated by your parents’ choice(s) to pass this along to you. It will never end, because you, and now your children, let it live on. How truly sad.
February 10, 2009 at 5:02 am |
if there were only 74 thousand who died, then where are the rest of them. hiding out I guess.
Heim ,if found, should have his balls fed to the pigs with him watching. then gasoline poured on him and set on fire. he and ted bundy would get along just fine.
February 10, 2009 at 5:18 am |
I think that what happened in the holocaust was sickening. It’s not something that will easily be forgotten. It was way too tragic and disturbing to ever be forgotten about even by those of us who were born years after the tragedy. It amazes me how one man(Hitler) could “sweet talk” even the most innocent of people to become “Jew haters.” The people at the time were so desperate for change that if poop could talk and wave a magic wand to change everything, the people would’ve believed it. It sord of sounds familiar in a way…Americans are desperate for change now…what are we willing to believe or go with in order to make our lives better? If we are not careful, we might see a similar tragedy as to that of the holocaust. People talk about how we learned from it and would never allow that to happen again, but how many out there are judging Arabs because of 9/11? Everything that happened in WW 2 is significant and one of the most important events in history. It’s not something to be taken lightly and must always be investigated as to make sure such a tragedy never occurs again.
And about still chasing after Nazi soldiers from sixty plus years ago…yeah I think it’s actually a little ridiculous. They are too old to be dealing with and now they are not going to cause any harm. Let them be to rot in their own unmoralistic crap. At the same time, feel sorry for them because they don’t have a humanistic soul to know the simple difference between right and wrong. Even Jesus asked God to “forgive them for they know not what they do…” (paraphrasing a little there). How suprised some of us are going to be when we get to Heaven and see a nazi soldier or two there. They have every opportunity to ask for God’s forgiveness as we do and I really do hope some of them did.
February 11, 2009 at 2:22 pm |
It’s not ridiculous to be chasing ‘old men’ and holding them accountable for war crimes/crimes against humanity. Justice is supposed to serve two main purposes – to punish / reform offenders & to act as a deterrent to other potential offenders. If we excuse these crimes, what else could we excuse? What kind of deterrent would this be? How soon do we want another holocaust?
We still have problems with international laws and punishing war crimes / crimes against humanity effectively. Any case lost or excused is a victory for evil and a slap in the face of all those innocent victims. It’s a knife in the back of all future victims.
We can’t let anyone get away with deeds / acts of this nature. Ever.
That message must be unified and clear. The consequences of contravening this international social compact should be equally clear.
We owe it to the future as much as we do the past.
February 10, 2009 at 4:13 pm |
There is no statute of limitations for crimes of this nature. Genocide/batshiat crazy/sick twisted monster, whatever you wanna call it, if he was still alive I would support his execution, even at his advanced age. If a dog contracts rabies, attempting to kill every person it sees, it gets euthanized.
And I hope for all our sakes that heaven/hell really exist, but I wouldn’t hold my breath.
Here’s a thought: Dislike someone for their ACTIONS, not for things that they have no control over, like racial heritage. Hating another person only hurts YOU. Hate poisons the well of your soul, and will kill you (sooner) as surely as a two-pack-a-day smoking habit.
February 10, 2009 at 5:48 pm |
Greed has motivated every atrocity ever perpetrated on innocents. Religion, racism and every other kind of hatred, only justifies the robbing, raping, razing, bombing and pillaging that forcibly separates land, property and gold from its rightful owners. To the victors go the spoils – even when war is one sided.
All of these old Nazi era b@stards could have been brought to justice when they were still young men. The world powers of the time, let them all slip through the cracks on purpose. For reasons we will never fully know. These war criminals knew too much (politics) to be allowed to talk in open court – unless needed as states evidence. They served as a living insurance policy for those who grew rich off of the world at war.
As with all criminal things, just follow the money trail … at the end of it, one usually finds the guilt. Who ever came out on top, is the real war criminal.
February 10, 2009 at 8:16 pm |
@ Zinnomongirl
I concur.
February 12, 2009 at 4:14 pm |
the war was a just war for the nazis they were pushed back and were oppresed hitler was fighting for the people and his loyal officers as well as his honorable commrades had to do what was supposed to be done no remorse for what was commited
February 13, 2009 at 1:34 am |
I could care less how old War Criminal’s are. Evil is evil.
February 13, 2009 at 6:19 am |
Your Right about that MMMbop, Evil is evil,I have Zero Respect for the Nazis, and I think they should be put in Concentration Camps so they can see what it feel like to be Badly Abused.
February 14, 2009 at 9:01 am |
To all of you talking about justice: where the hell is this justice for the israeli jews leaders and their criminal actions taken on palestinians ? Should they all be sent to international court as it had been done in Nuremberg? Think deeply about …. it is the same thing. Liitle infants killed, innocent mothers bombed, elderly people slaughter by the israel army (they all are jews remember?)! But I can’t forget that the majority of americans nowadays are all part of a general system based on jewish world dominance. At this time we are living the consquences of this dominance (credit crunch, fall of capitalism, jewish conspiracies, little wars worldwide by jewish americans, see for all that who’s behind…..) It needs a little bit of mind to understand what lies beneath nowadays and the future lies in front of us so dark….
February 19, 2009 at 2:50 pm |
Jews Do Not Control The World You Idiot
February 19, 2009 at 2:54 pm |
Youre Right You Do Have A Little Bit Of Mind,you Nazi Dupe. Go See Heim When You Need A Surgeon
March 5, 2009 at 6:50 am |
Marclis Eli Ravage was repeating gentile assertions about the Jews in a satirical piece. Not familiar with the rest of your quotes. Other quotes and history would refute all of them. I don’t believe you have Jewish friends, Invictus. If you did, they would point out that the Jews do not control the media or American business. They have an influence, that’s all, and that’s because of a cultural emphasi9s on education (“the only thing you can take with you everywhere,” as one Holocaust survivor told me.) Gentiles have far more influence. In Europe before the war you were as likely to find poor Jews as rich ones. Don’t be a bigot. It makes you look foolish and weakminded.
March 11, 2009 at 11:11 pm |
Must say, that whoever is against Jewish people is agains Jesus our Lord and Savior. Cause he came from jewish Roots too. Those who are Neo Nazi paticipants, I must say, You are so diverted in your believes, it’s sickening. I feel you are the poor bi product of Nazism. I feel it outermost disrespectful to our German democratic roots. We who are trying to reconsile, will not stand for your political bulshit. Our Jewish brother’s and sisters have suffered horrible ordeals . I think it’s inhumane what Hitler and his Nazi party did. I will not stand for that shit either. I love every one. I love my Jewish brothers and sisters. And by God, it’s time, that we all live in peace with each others. Shalom Shalechm.
March 12, 2009 at 9:24 pm |
My grandfather died in Mauthausen as a Jew and as a French partisan. Things happend and that’s it without any discussion. The replies of some stupid people living in their small extremist Nazi world will always be there how tough it is for survivors of the Holocaust and for all people with common sense.
Anyway as a Jewish ancestor ( though I’m Christian baptised) I also do not always agree the way how Palestinians are treated. For this reason I agree that some people compare the Gaza with the Warschau Ghetto. Though when you try to discuss peace that’s difficult when some nerds still use people as a shield and shoot rockets at you. Same thing as in Ireland for the moment, all Irish ( Catholic and Protestant) want and had peace till somme dumb motherfuckers want to play little soldier again.
And yes sometimes it’s true that history is written by those who won a war but there are still facts black on white this due to the “Deutsche grundlichkeit” where all these facts by themself were registered and even photographed.
Finally the guy himself Dr.Heim, yes hunt him down and hang him accoring to Nurenberg law that’s what he he chose for when performing his non-medical acts. His children, leave them alone, they did not choose they father and they are already punished to be his children and drag the history to the next gens.
Do well, receive well.
March 13, 2009 at 8:16 am |
Compassion is a strong will in the human spirit. Those of us that have it are true caring people that feel for the poor people that had to suffer through this tragic event that should have never taken place. NO ONE deserves to be treated like those poor people did so many years ago…God Bless each and everyone of u that care and want to make this world a better place. I hope all of the Nazis’ that are still out and wanted for ur war crimes burn in hell for what u did…and guess what? Ur souls r going to be burning forever! I know that sounds a little cruel, but God will make sure they suffer in ways that r horrible for them and I am truely sorry for what happened during the Holocaust and to all the people who suffered…u will always be in my thoughts and prayers…(and o yeah, Nazi’s suck)! If they r as good as u believers say they r then y r they chickens in hiding and defeated? Well let’s see, cause there were/are stronger forces out there and the Nazis’ will never have that strength…that’s y they lost WWII! Punks! Okay now I am done venting!
May we never forget.
March 16, 2009 at 8:14 am |
The most shocking thing to realize about the Holocaust is that it could only have occurred…because the Germans and their collaborators thought they would win. If they had realized early on they could not win , they would not have done such a thing. So why did they believe they would ‘get away with it’?
One only commits a crime if one believes one can get away with it, correct?
The very arrogance of the German and Austrian militarists is what proved to be their undoing. Who in his right mind would think that the America, Britain and the Soviet Union would not fight back?
The Nazis have almost single-handedly ruined Western civilization. Who could ever look at it innocently again?
March 18, 2009 at 7:06 pm |
Hang on a minute all of you.
Present day facts.
1) A BRITISH Catholic priest denies that the gas chambers ever existed based on a so called expert testimony of a a professional “gas chamber constructer”.
2) Aribert Heim SUPPOSEDLY died in 1992 of cancer, in Egypt.
3) Nazi’s will forever deny all atrocities even though one, who is possibly STILL alive, ADMITTED as recently as the 1990’s that he should have killed more of them because “they deserved it”.(Alois Brunner)
4. Millions of living witness statements from 1946 onwards, written, taped, recorded and stored in one way or another have helped capture and try many many exnazi’s from the 2nd world war.
My conclusion? As a neutral non jewish Englishman living in safety?
1) It happened. My father KNEW it as early as 1942. Intelligence. then he went there and saw it. Also many many thousands of other troops that liberated the camps. It happened, FACT. The Catholic priest needs banishing to an island in the middle of nowhere inparticular.
2)Aribert Heims lawyers have been claiming money for a man that was alive up to 2001. Duh….even I can work that one out. Either his lawyer comitted perjury or his son did by clkaiming the money as he was supposedly dead!
3) Brunner? Been hidden by the Syrians for years…he helped them plan things AGAINST the Isrealis many many years ago. And the Syrians dont particularly like the isrealis do they? Brunner if still alive, is protected in the same way Mengele was in South America. Damned shame Mossad didnt get him in those letter bombs. Only a few fingers and an eye. Shame.
4)Ive heard of mass hysteria, but mass confession to something that never happened? In different places? Take a look at the newly opened files once owned by Stasi in Berlin. MILLIONS of names. They didnt all commit mass suicide!
Finally. Josef Fritzel is as we write being tried on crimes the great majority of us call inhuman. We cannot, most of us, comprehend his motives nor his ability to do what he did. But he did those things. The German SS and co DID kill the jews, in an awful fashion. On Hitlers orders. Carried out by maniacs.
We cannot deny this. To do so would be tantamount to saying that Josef Fritzel didnt rape his own daughter 3000 times, father 7 children by her and keep her imprisoned for over 20 years. Please people, Lets get it straight.
It happened. Humanity has a duty to look itself in the face and admit it. We arent all made for being angels. Some are simply, PURE EVIL.
They exist today. They existed then. Just let us get on with getting the sick animals and deal with them. The facts are there well enough. Germans themseløves admit it happened. They are ashamed of it too. They were also ashamed to admit that they rode the tidal wave of Hitler and his thugs. It isnt easy being shown up to being a follower of such a man. But they did, and their shame is right too. But it could so easily have been the followers of the Kmher Rouge, Pol Pot etc. Or Idi Amin, or Robert Mugabe.
Tha madmen exist. Their ideologies were and ARE åut into practice. Dont lets argue if it happened…it did and still does, in different guises.
No doubt some genius will make a fortune in 30 years time discovering that Josef Fritzel was framed. Yeah, and Im a giant Panda.
March 18, 2009 at 8:44 pm |
Phil C – very well put, could not agree with you more. Hitler always said, that History will redeem him. Ironically, historical statistics and pre/post Holocaust demographics will forever condemn him.
And yes, the perpetrators of defamatory and degenerative racial, cultural and ethnic stereotypes, that are at the root of relentless persecution still have a very loud and powerful voice.
fraudtech.bizland.com/gypsy_introduction.htm
Worst yet, they are people with the power of a police officers badge, and also crime writers within the news media.
David Lohr recently penned an article holding “Gypsies” responsible for the alleged disappearance and assumed murder of a missing Texas woman. Closer examination revealed that “Gypsies” have never been suspects or persons of interest. As a matter of fact the first mention of “Gypsies” as a target for suspicion is in David Lohrs article. He fabricated the story. He has since been forced to retract and reword the article, but one can still see evidence of the original “Gypsy” themed post, in the reader comments area of the article. In his blatant defamation David Lohr not only reinforces the degenerate criminality “Gypsy” stereotype, but also frames the Romani people for the alleged murder. Outrageous and flagrant defamation!
blogs.discovery.com/criminal_report/2009/03/april-beth-pitzer.html
This article exposes David Lohr as a Racist, yet he is still given voice and allowed to influence the course of a criminal investigation. Even though he fabricated suspects and crime scenarios that did not originally exist. Here is the REAL story: nwanews.com/adg/News/148550/
Framing the Romani people for murder is evil, especially when considering they are presently experiencing persecution at the same level as medieval times. At this writing the Romani people of the world (frequently referred to by the negative degenerative label of “Gypsies”) are experiencing a world wide humanitarian crisis, as they are still being relentlessly persecuted.
Their homes are being torched and burned to the ground, they are being murdered by xenophobic mobs, harassed by police,and are denied citizenship in the countries where they have lived for over 800 years. They are socially spurned and forced into segregation, they are purposely discriminated against in employment, education and housing, and persecuted into fleeing their native homelands.
When they arrive as refugees in other countries they are greeted with xenophobic hatred. In some countries they are forced to wander homeless and are denied even the barest of necessities. They are not allowed in public facilities, and are forced to live without housing and sanitation, they must sleep either next to or within the city dump. This is going on right now, all over the world – today!
Think a holocaust can’t happen again? Think again, it is happening right now to the Romani people of the world.
The Romani people have been persecuted and killed right alongside of the Jews for a thousand years. Yet, it is the “Gypsy” who is still being hunted, killed and persecuted today.
This is why I stress, that when approaching the fight for social equality and human rights, we must try to kill off the entire evil Xenophobic beast. When select groups fight ONLY for the equal rights and social justice, of their own select group, all that does, is to inflict a temporary flesh wound. It allows the Beast to live and rise up again, and once it has gained back it’s strength it will devour everyone again – equally. Today it’s chomping down on the Romani people, who will it be next, once it’s done digesting that meal?
March 18, 2009 at 9:38 pm |
Roma Justice…excellent viewpoint indeed. But like you unsinuate, it isnt just one group of humans..in your excellent article, you name the Romani population.
I once asked my wise old father, when I was a young lad many years ago the eternal question, referring to the near extinction of the European Jewish Race. Why did it happen?
He said this…
As long as there are human beings, as long as we CLAIM to have a greater intelligence than any other life form on this or any other planet, occasional xenophobic maniacs will appear. First on the horizon, then, by will of the oppressed, come closer to the centre of world political life. When this influence is backed by those who are in need of a leader, then, and only then, has the composition of power been adequately gained for its effect to be put into force. No leader, ever, could have done any amount of good or evil without a body of backing.
In Hitler’s case, the SS became the face of terror to implement his evil ideas. The ideology behind the ideas was simple enough, but without mass backing, it could never have been done. Why? Beacause some humans thirst on power. The higher up one achieves status within an organisation, the greater the influence on those below.
He added this, which I found very interesting, and a great leveller…
You DO of course realise that the higher echelons of the Nazi regime all distrusted each other? Himmler, Goering, Kaltenbrunner, Hess, the whole bumch of them, were all scared of being usurped. BY EACH OTHER. And that was the power struggle within the power struggle. Hitler deliberately changed his favoured men from time to time to create exactly that situation. It enabled him to keep the optimal position safe, or relatively so, by letting those below him continually watch their backs. That way, they all HAD to remain faithful. Near the end of course, they found out that Hitler was no war genius at all, and the fractions started to occur against his militaristic policies. Plus the fact that they realised he was starting to lose his mind.
So summing up… yes…it will always happen. The trick we “normal” humans have to keep doing is quite simple.
Cut out the infection in the blackhead BEFORE it becomes a boil. Then multi-headed boil, cyst or even a cancerous lump.
Either that or drain out the pus at regular intervals.
Saw today that Josef Fritzel has just changed his plea and admitted to every charge.
I think he saw that trying the “my mother showed me no love and I have always been a loner” ploy didnt really wash.
It didnt work at Nuremburg either…”I was only following orders”.
It never will. One part of our intelligence development we can be thankful for is simply lovely…
Pull the other one, its got bells on it.
Seems I’m not a Giant Panda after all.
April 8, 2009 at 10:27 am |
Have you seen the 250-page 2007 paperback published by a mainstream publisher, Grasset in France, *Ni Oubli Ni Pardon* or the 2009 hardback version [ published by John Blake, London ] as *The Secret Executioners*, by Danny Baz, a former IDF officer, who claims that Heim was executed by a Jewish group of avengers, *The Owl*, in the USA [ Catalina Island, California ] in 1982 ? He claims they accounted for 12 fugitive Nazi war-criminals, including members of the *Shock Squadron 5* under Zobrach, Namsila and Lichtanker, who massacred Balkan Jews, and also Hungarian *Arrow Cross* fascists, and disbanded after Heim was executed.
However both the OSI, and the Simon Wiesenthal Center strongly reject Baz’s claim.
Baz, a veteran of the Yom Kippur War, and with service in both the IDF naval commando, Shaldag, and IDF Air Force, mentions 10 others [3 women and 7 men ] as actively involved with him, including some with CIA, police or Marine backgrounds. The late millionaire Ted Arison, a Palmach veteran and 1972 founder of *Carnival Cruise*, who died in 1999, first introduced Baz to *The Owl*, and the Owl leader and main funder was *Barney*, a very wealthy oil magnate in the USA.
April 8, 2009 at 2:48 pm |
Interesting except that other, independant authorities knew of his existance after 1982. These include the Egyptian immigration authorities, the Egyptian government, The German government, the German Banking Group that held his money, his son, his daughter, and by his own admittance, his lawyer.
American conspiration theories without substance are rife in today’s world Im afraid. There is ALWAYS someone behind something in America.
Although this OWL organization did indeed exist, and although they may very well have executed Nazis, Aribert Heim “murder” seems to be the work of an enterprising journalist.
Look at the subject of Jack the Ripper. Even today, still, in the USA, most people in the USA believe that the 5th victim, Mary Kelly, was pregnant. Even after the post mortum came to light 101 years after her death (1989), where it specifically stated she wasn’t pregnant, in the States so called expert expound the fact that she was. These same experts link the Royal family and its cover up to the murders, even though the one that they accuse was nowhere near ANY of the murders on any of the nights in question, proved by court records and endless numbers of witnesses who saw the “guilty person” and dined with him, some from other european households who logged his prescence in THEIR diaries and records.
I am sorry to digress, but no, Aribert Heim was certainly alive in 1982. The CIA for example, mentioned in your excellent piece, would NEVER reveal they were involved.
To back this up…I say three letters. J F K.
I’d love to believe it were true. Unfortunately, time and a wealth of independant evidence says otherwise.
Nice article though. Thank you
April 26, 2009 at 5:51 am |
invictus, you’re just an angry man with too much time and too little perception. most of you Nazis tend to be.
May 5, 2009 at 2:30 pm |
Unbelievable, I am truly stunned by some of the reactions here. Denying the holocaust, claiming a jewish conspiracy to take over the world, blaming anything and everything on the jews. Unbelievable. You fuckers, grow a beard like your mothers and be a man. Take responsibility for your own pathetic lives instead of pointing at others who you think are to blame.
I am from Holland and let me tell you, there were many jews here and there have been for many years. After the war there were next to none. If you think that these people went somewhere else just to keep a myth alive you’d have to be seriously retarded.
July 22, 2009 at 9:20 pm |
Hi. Look up William Harster, he was one of the top Nazi criminals involved in the Netherlands.
May 5, 2009 at 2:38 pm |
Peter P
I cannot agree with you more. The most frightening thing is, in my book, that there are some youngsters today that just don’t believe it ever happened.
I am a schoolteacher here in Norway, and believe me, there are some 13 year olds that think I am making it all up when I tell them of the Holocaust.
The saddening thing is that these same kids go on the White Buses trip to the death camps at 16…and see for themselves that it really happened. I have seen big tough, loud mouthed yound men of 16 break down in complete sorrow at this sight.
Someone, somewhere, has the influence over these kids that is so strong, that no matter what we do or say, unless they see it for themselves, they think it doesnt exist or never happened.
That is very very sad.
I recommend that every child aged 12 should watch, intensely, Schindlers List.
Maybe then they will understand why we older people (Im 50) are still so angry about neo nazis getting all the attention they do.
May 21, 2009 at 8:10 pm |
A lot of you guys are freaks. I understand if you do not like Jews, that’s fine. But when you start agreeing and saying that what Aribert Heim did was fine and great and dandy and all, its really messed up. Put yourself in the prisoners positions, without being a smartass about it. Do you want to be alive when your insides are being cut out? Do you want to be killed FOR NO REASON? Do you want to be a RANDOM person and get killed because two people think its “funny” to put injections into your heart to see which one will kill the fastest? No. No you wouldn’t. It is a choice they have in life to be what kind of religion they want to be. They are not going out killing people cause you are Catholic, Hindi, Buddhist, or anything like that.
I am not Jewish, nor am I an adult. I’m sixteen years old and I know right from wrong, when you obviously don’t.
You are selfish pigs.
June 17, 2009 at 1:31 am |
Aribert Heim is alive and well and is living in billings montana. he has been seen and recognized.
June 17, 2009 at 1:52 am |
“Aribert Heim is alive and well and is living in Montana”
And like James von Brunn, he is still posting an old 1945 photo,to depict himself! ha ha …
I couldn’t resist.
June 21, 2009 at 4:41 am |
Invictus, I advise you to check out a Military Channel program on Germans during World War One. They really did kill Edith Cavell, A British Nurse. And they really did kill up to 6,000 Belgian and French civilians. It’s not propaganda.
June 22, 2009 at 4:55 pm |
He is an old man now, not the young man in the photo from 1945. A bit of surgery, a ballcap to hide…but you can’t hide a black, dead, evil spirit. Hidden in Billings Montana? I can believe that! What a way to stay hidden. Bogus tips all over the world, wild goose chases while he sits in Billings Montana…”I feel safe here _, I just feel safe.” Makes sense to me now.
June 22, 2009 at 5:00 pm |
paolosilv.wordpress.com
On John(Ivan) Demanjanjuk case.
June 22, 2009 at 8:40 pm |
If it looks like a “duck”…waddles like a “duck” and quacks like a “duck”…errrrr I believe it to be a duck.
If your face shows scars around the mouth, scars from inside your nose and chin,(plastic surgery) you have the same steely grey/blue piercing evil eyes and look like Heim’s photo even at 90something…quack quack..If you own a german poison gas gun and tell someone that you could kill them and no one would even know how you died, If you love to talk about killing and simulate killing,quack quack,If you are completely paranoid and rumage through other’s private belongings,garbage and computer usage, quack quack, if you pretend to be younger than you are and you seriously don’t look it,quack, quack, if you have no pictures on your walls of ANY family functions for the past 60 yrs, quack, quack, if you pretend to be military, though you own nothing to show that you were even in the US Military, nor do you show up in the archives, quack, quack, if you have 20 different names, three different initials,all to the very same place that you live and one of them says aribert heim within the name, QUACK QUACK, If you own plenty of apartment units, if you have no real history of “living or background” If you continually flap your lips bragging, did it all, know it all and did it better than anyone else…but you never seem to speak a word about medical or soccer…quack quack..QUACK QUACK…If you have a GOV block on your phone line, BIG QUACK…
So, as I say, if it looks like a duck, waddles like a duck, and quacks like a duck…IT IS A DUCK!
June 22, 2009 at 11:26 pm |
Do you think he still lives?
June 23, 2009 at 3:23 am |
Aribert Heim and others of his ilk, are alive and well and living simultaneously in all the countries of Eastern Europe. Just go to YouTube and watch all the extremist and racist hatred directed at the Roma, informally referred to as “Gypsies”. Use your Google translation tool and translate some of the outrageous and cold blooded stuff people on there have to say.
I highly recommend “Racism Part3 Czech Republic” its a well made 10 minute video detailing the out of control and dismal situation for Roma and other minorities, living in Eastern Europe.
I have been following this situation for the past year, and have diligently tried to give a shout out to the humanitarian crisis facing Eastern European Roma (especially Kosovo Roma) for the past 7 months – to no avail. It seems nobody gives a sh/t about these poor people, just because they are “Gypsies”.
It is ridiculous that in this day and age, any people should have to wander homeless, be socially outcast and scorned, psychologically abused and hamstrung from the cradle, relentlessly persecuted and otherwise systamatically persecuted into their destruction, in part or as a whole, simply due to their racial, ethnic or cultural origin. This should not be happening anywhere in the world, let alone in Europe.
I’m very concerned, as I see little to nothing coming from the Jewish front in regard to speaking out or help for Roma. Please correct me if I’m wrong and give me some source material, links and details, as to how I might be mistaken.
Why is this xenophobic and extremist fueled humanitarian crisis, that has been besieging the Roma over the past year, being ignored by Jews?
Is there some animosity between the two groups (Jews and Roma) that I’m not aware of? If so, what is it, and why?
Please watch “Racism Part3 Czech Republic” and tell me, why are we not totally alarmed and outraged? Is it because “Gypsies” are the ones suffering?
Surely nobody can believe that “Gypsies” are genetically inferior, natural born criminals, and predisposed to failure. Not in this day and age?
Especially since DNA evidence reveals that Roma are originally from India. So, wouldn’t that make 1.14 Billion Indians all a bunch of genetic losers, all deserving the same social scorn, persecution and destruction?
Duh? What’s up with this screwed up, ass backward way of thinking? Isn’t it high time we do away with this “Gypsies” (or any other group) need to die, suffer and be destroyed, just for existing – crap?
June 23, 2009 at 5:20 am |
I KNOW he still lives….
June 23, 2009 at 5:38 am |
Then please contact the Simon Weisenthal center right now!
If you know anything, do so, please.
Paul
June 27, 2009 at 5:48 am |
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/02/most-wanted-nazi-war-criminal-comverted-to-islam-died-in-egypt.html
Amazing article on Dr. Heim, in Cairo. Apparently 2000 Nazis fled to Cairo. I wonder who helped them flee there?
June 30, 2009 at 6:20 am |
It’s a bunch of b.s, Heim in Cario. Perfectly planted suitcase, how lovely that it just wraps things up. Paleeeeeeze! He was brought to the US, plain and simple. Who helped him? Paperclip, I am assuming. You wonder who helped him flee? Look up project paperclip and you will see. Oh, information was given already. Can’t wait for the day that they pick him up!
June 30, 2009 at 7:04 am |
Yes, I agree. But he can’t be in the US ? because the OSI and Wiesenthal people would know. So far they aare saying he may be in S. America.
Paperclip documents were released by the CIA in 2002 or 2003 under the Freedom of Info Act. Thanks Paul
June 30, 2009 at 9:49 pm |
And he can’t be in the U.S. because of why??? Are you sure about that Paul?
If he was in the U.S. with a NEW name, new age, new wife and all the so called “legit” documents that were provided to Nazi war criminals at that time…How would Wiesenthal people know?
They would only know, if they were given the information…by those who “recognize” him…regardless of a bit of plastic surgery.
P.S. Yes, documents were unclassified but how do you know ALL documents were open to the public viewing. Do you really believe that everything is made known to the public?
June 30, 2009 at 9:55 pm |
Well, Nazi hunter, I don’t know anything more than what was shown to me here. IT’s not inconceivable that he would be in the US, but it isn’t likely. It’s a question of probability. Argentina and Chile has clusters of these Nazis and as they say birds of a feather… flock together. Somehow I can’t see him hanging out at the neighborhood Starbucks in DC with a fake mustache. I saw the video on Simon Weisenthal and it said they were looking for him in Chile and Argentina. That’s all I know. It is easier for him to do his ‘banking’ abroad since he would have no medical licence here in the States, I presume.Even a lone Nazi would need accomplices, someone whom he would trust.Most likely other German/Austrians. It stands to reason. Plus, if he were in the States, where would he flee to , if the heat is on? The farthest ends of the world sounds right to me, or somewhere in the Arab world, like Syria.
July 1, 2009 at 5:20 am |
Fake mustache? hahaha no, let’s say backwoods Chili/Argentina surgery, chin implant, and also skin grafting on face near scars.
Just because he is a Doctor doesn’t mean he had to stay a doc. Infact, he was tipped off by ? and went on the run in 1962, at that time he was owning a 42 unit apartment complex, collecting money from his rents in Germany.
As for banking, it has already been told that he has accomplices, money being transfered through US and also Switzerland.
Where would he flee too? Hahaha, his is 95 yrs old and wouldn’t flee anywhere, the chase would be up. He would most likely get picked up or kill himself. No where to run.
As I said, if it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck and waddles like a duck..IT IS A DUCK.
This is how he has escaped all of these years. No one, including you would believe that he could be in the US.
Oh, and p.s. Aribert Heim was in Chili, Argentina, etc in the early 60’s but when they were pushed out by the new government…where do you think they went?
I KNOW ONE AND HE IS IN BILLINGS MONTANA!!!
July 1, 2009 at 5:35 am |
? I don’t get it. Why would you to tell me? I ‘m not with Wiesenthal. I just edit my little blog for fun.
July 1, 2009 at 7:33 am |
Wow, I just learned that two relatives of a little known but still major Nazi live in the USA. Shit, since these are relatives, what should I say about it?
July 1, 2009 at 9:46 am |
Nazihunter777Nhater… A few observations for you…
1) Hang on a minute. Here you are, a normal, everyday person arguing on a website that the whole world can read if they want to… about the CERTAIN existance of a well known, world reknowned ex Nazi from WW11 living happily in Billings, Montana, obviously without a care in the world of being caught….Err one very important point…
IF YOU KNOW of this person, and are certain of it.. how come every known authority on the planet DOESNT know about it, and HASNT done anything about it in xx years?
It is IMPOSSIBLE that this man, whom you KNOW..as in CERTAIN, to be a famous ex Nazi, can sit around in the middle of Montana WITHOUT having been picked up. BUT YOU KNOW he is there, apparently.. a common all garden man knows what thousands of professional people dont?… Yeah, right. Dream on.
Most all ex WW11 Nazis still alive are KNOWN …where they live and what they are doing are also known facts. Most of the people on the top ten most wanted list issued by the Simon Wiesenthal centre (have a good look at the list) are all under intense scrutiny and most of them at one stage or another have been through some sort of court system. John Demajnek (sic) is a good example. Soeren Kamm is another.
2) There is NO PROOF that Heim was in Chile. He was THOUGHT to be there, or to have at one stage VISITED, because his daughter lived there. There is no record, via any authority, of him LIVING in Chile. The records have been searched again and again, by those anti Nazis INSIDE the various Chilean governments throughout the years. THOSE ARE FACTS. Dont replace fact with possible assumption.
3) The problem with conspiracy theories, (and the Americans are amazing at inventing these), is that no independant VIABLE PROOF is ever put forward. Heresay isnt proof. The fact that YOU know this man is apparently in Billings Montana doesnt amount to squat. If you are certain… Prove it! Even better..Go to the correct authorities, or contact them, and let them investigate it with all the resources they have, and TIME and possibility of setting up the scouting, seizure, arrest, interview, charges and prosecution of this man.
4) I suspect, with all respect, you are a wishful thinker. The adventure of hunting down the last known giant of Hitler’s Nazi Germany, is a bit like trying to discover the identity of Jack the Ripper. The longer time it goes on, the more the theories will expand further. And you are only adding fuel to a fire that is water based. It is just theory. NOT FACT. When one person writes something PERTAINING to be faqct, someone will pick it up and repeat it AS fact. So… back to basics please. You can guess, theorise argue and cajole anyone into believing your theory— but until YOU, present the proper authority with proof then it is just twaddle.
5) I suspect that the Isrealis and the various covert government departments from all over Europe know a bit more about the whereabouts of these old men and women than you do. I suspect that they have people working their balls off all over the place to hunt the last of the Nazis down. I suspect that many of them are being watched as we speak. I suspect that some even read this little piece of diatribe here! I suspect that there is a possibility that even some people known toand friends or aquaintances of ex Nazi’s read this article. DOH !(quote, Homer Simpson). If so many people, on both sides of the “fence” have access to even this small piece of written crap… err.. dont you think they KNOW what they are doing? The Danes want Kamm out of Germany, Demajnek has been arrested recently in his wheelchair. Various governments, GERMANY included have hunted and applied to foreign governments for extradition orders on these people. But they dont do anything about a 95 year old man in Billings Montana whom you KNOW to be an ex Nazi? YOU, an individual citizen with no connection to any autority KNOW … but they dont? Good grief … get real!
6) Finally, and this is important. There are VERY FEW people in this world, no matter what country, who know the absolute truth over Aribert Heim and for example, Alois Brunner. The Egytians have knowledge, but EXACT knowledge may well have died with the person or persons who knew for sure. Likewise the Syrians. Mossad have got to Brunner a few times, and he was last known to be alive in Syria many years ago. Claims and counter claims, false leads laid down on purpose, false allegations published (from BOTH sides) in the intention of fooling and counter fooling each other has been going on for years. What you are doing is confusing allegation with fact. And unless you and others like you stop doing it, loads of hogwash will cloud the issue.
I suggest that your duck is dead in the water. For without proof, it is only made of plastic. In other words, it isnt a duck, its a conspiracy dressed up to look like a duck. IF ITS A DUCK…then proove it. If not, keep quiet and let SERIOUS investigators get on with doing what they are damned good at. As an individual, you have the right to free speech. As a historian, you have your facts wrong. What seems clear to you, is NOT fact.It is supposition based on unproven theory. I’m sorry. Go jump on the Michael Jackson conspiracy bandwagon…its all the rage at the moment. After all..if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and danced like a duck… it must be a duck right????…Compelling argument? NOT! Bhurchill was once told, in parliament I believe, that he was “a wolf in sheep’s clothing” to which he replied to the gentleman “perhaps, but better that than you… a sheep in sheep’s clothing”. And sheep just follow the rest of the sheep. Keep following the rest of the sheep that conclude conspiracy is the only answer. I will stick to known facts. QUACK, BAH and MOO!
July 2, 2009 at 12:41 am |
There is no arguement here. Not quite sure how you see an arguement? I am just documenting what I know to be true. Why? For many, many reasons that I can not disclose here. Seems that you are very upset by this, unnaturally angry. Interesting. VERY interesting.
Michael Jackson bandwagon? No, not for me. I never met Michael Jackson posing to be another person, so why jump on the bandwagon.
As for others reading my words…GOOD! THAT IS WHAT I need at this moment. I am glad you read them, as well as others, it does not concern me what you think, assume, feel or want to discredit. This is not here for your review. It is just a statement, a documentation of such, for me, not you.
P.s. Who says they havn’t or are not doing anything about it? I am far from being a “sheeple,” but I think that’s cute. I say that he is there in Montana…because I know I have met him. Period. There are many who know where Aribert Heim is. Your bases for an arguement are silly.
Yes, as it is called freedom of speech. I chose to use it, and never stop speaking what I know. Thanks for the long, long, long angry speech of nonsense. Should I say QUACK QUACK? or BAAAABAAAA?
July 2, 2009 at 12:59 am |
No, I am not angry at you. Don’t know what gave you that impression. Angry at Nazi. But if you do have info then call or emial Wiestenthal there is nothing I can do .
July 2, 2009 at 1:16 am |
This was to PHILC not to you Paul. Read that long, long angry “try to discredit” pretend message above…Conspiracy theorist? Hmmm if I go that way with this angry note that was left…I guess I could ask him how much he got paid to write that NOVEL discrediting me?
Oh, as for letting serious investigators look for him…hahahaha…I am not an investigator, I am your normal, everyday citizen who unexpectedly met and recognized Aribert Heim silly! Oh, and I can say he WAS in CHILI/ARGENTINA because “HE TOLD ME SO!”
After many, many threats to me after giving the Authorities the tip…I decided to post it, everywhere I can!
dumb sheeples! I tell you!
July 2, 2009 at 2:04 am |
”Sheeple” Did Michael Savage really coin that? Well, if you should to see the dear Doctor, maybe you could ‘help him down the stairs’ if you know what I mean.
July 2, 2009 at 6:14 am |
Ninety-year old Nazi still living?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Sandberger
July 2, 2009 at 8:11 am |
Hahaha…help him down the stairs..tooooooo funny. Believe me, I wanted to! I would prefer the Weisenthal hunters pick him up instead. I will be a very happy girly, and many, MANY Jews will be very happy that this monster was brought to justice. Possibly they can inject him with gasoline to the heart..and I can hold the stopwatch? He is so deserving of this.
I don’t listen to Michael Savage. I am not sure who made up the word “sheeple” but if you knew me…I am as far from a sheeple than you could imagine! hehehe.
I think that a sheeple is someone who yells “conspiracy theorist” when there is no reason. This word SHEEPLE is only used to detract the readers from listening to a person voice their truths-a misguided attempt to cover things that should be uncovered.
In this world full of much evil…many people are out there that start a commotion over “here” so others don’t look over “there.” Phil does not want others to look “there,” where I am standing…in a nutshell.
So tell me Phil, did you get paid for that comment? lol
July 2, 2009 at 8:30 am |
“YOU, AN INDIVIDUAL WITH NO CONNECTION TO ANY AUTHORITY.” ???
My connection and authority, only authority is Jesus CHRIST and God..thank you very much.
July 2, 2009 at 9:50 am |
You have met this man? This, the most “despicable man” quote MANY experts on the subject.
You will be telling me next that this man is of course a human being and should be treated in the same way all humans should, according to the words of the Lord God and Jesus I suppose! I wondered when Christian religious ferver would reach into this… I should have guessed. And NO, I am not Jewish. I am NOT AMERICAN, I AM NOT A NAZI.. I am an Englishman, for whom TRUTH and DECENCY, gentlemanliness and respect command my dealings with others. However, there are exceptions to every rule, and you sir, without proof, are talking utter gibberish. This, knowingly on my part, is an act of floccinaucinihilipilification. (look it up and learn something)… directed towards the diatribe you write.
I have NOTHING against the idea of Aribert Heim existing in Montana! But what I fail to comprehend, is that YOU havent done anything ABOUT THIS AMAZING FACT! Posting it here means nothing.. just pick up a telephone, and PROVE you need to show what a God fearing man you are that seeks not fortune nor favour, and get this man ARRESTED!
As far as getting paid, no, that unitelligent dig wont wash… I dont need money to tell you what utter rubbish is. Without proof it is UNSUBSTANSIATED THEORY.
DISPROVE THAT!
What I do know are facts. And facts do NOT bear out your theory of him living in Billings, Montana.
Because you cannot prove your point, my reply was “silly”…. and that is a basis of argument?
Reminds me of Monty Python… and the automatic gainsaying of the other persons words is defined as argument.. “no it isnt” “Yes it is” “No it isnt” etc etc.
And I wasnt angry… I was ASTOUNDED by things you purport to be fact without any basis of proof!
..
QUOTE YOU..
After many, many threats to me after giving the Authorities the tip…I decided to post it, everywhere I can! UNQUOTE YOU
Threats?.. Excuse me, but what planet are you living on? Nobody threatened you at all, what WAS done was people telling you to go to the authorities! This man is the most wanted man on this planet…yet you only decide to tell the authorities because you are told to do so a few times? Err… where is your underlying sense of Christian ETHICS? You should have told the authorities about this azazing sighting the second you had the possibility!
And you just want to post it, all over the place?.. The Simon Wiesenthal Centre is THE PLACE. Pick up a phone… they will assuredly call you back… if what you say has any basis of truth in it. But you saying you have met Aribert Heim in Billings Montana needs PROOF…
1.. That he is where you say he is
2. That he is WHO you say he is
3. That he lives under an alias, or false name
4. Preferably some photographic evidene
5. More than suspicion because he “looks like” Aribert Heim. And he “told me so”
You have had a conversation with this man you claim now?
My God, the world is really in trouble. The blind lead the blind.. and the sheep follow. Lord help the sheep following YOU! Because they are going NOWHERE…FAST!
No, I am not angry.
I cannot abide time wasters that obviously have nothing better to do with their time than post rubbish to get attention because they are seeking it.
You must be very lonely.
Thats called freedom of speech too. But I dont NEED to use it.It isnt an insult either. its a fact… you are wasting all of our time… go somewhere else and cry wolf sunshine…and take the Lord God and Jesus with you in your head.
There is a saying that says that if the last man in an argument is the first man to give in… he is the winner. I GIVE IN… and therefore, from this standpoint, the discussion is now closed.
Americans have a saying too… PUT UP OR SHUT UP.
Nike have a slogan. JUST DO IT!
Here endeth the lesson.
July 2, 2009 at 5:16 pm |
Giggle.
Phil, You don’t seem to assimilate what you have been reading and why I picked this friendly blog to post.(was friendly anyway
) You actually don’t seem to have the ability to read and understand words at all, saying the exact opposite of what I have written. Interesting, again. VERY INTERESTING.
This is only “documentation” sweety, a safe keeping of such, due to the many threats to me, after giving this information out as a tip. I am well aware that this is a blog and not a tip line silly. (The blog owner will be most grateful that I am here, regardless of your feelings or lack of, hopefully soon.)
My authority to speak up is Jesus and God, and always will be. God, truth, purity and all that is “just” is MY authority. That I know to be GOD.
That being said, you have no valid standpoint, no argument, no one to argue with. I am not here to argue with you, convince you, prove to you, show you anything. You are not even a part of this equation in any way, shape, form or manner. Not quite sure why you think you are but I have a strong idea of why you popped up.
You are irrelevant to what I know, what I have and seemingly, you think that telling me to shut up, end of discussion, go away means anything to me?
Here is a slogan for you…Try milk? How about…
TRY GOD!
July 2, 2009 at 6:11 pm |
pathetic.
July 2, 2009 at 7:30 pm |
uh, oh….you are not the WINNER anymore! hehehe
July 2, 2009 at 9:33 pm |
patheitc and sad
July 11, 2009 at 7:27 am |
Most or all of the Nazis are dead by now. If they go after anyone it will probably be the Trawniki men, the Ukranians, Balts and other who helped the Nazis kill millions of people.
July 11, 2009 at 9:08 am |
Aribert Heim lebt in Billings, Montana. Er ist gesund und munter!
July 11, 2009 at 9:14 am |
Ja,ja. Truly??
July 12, 2009 at 8:44 pm |
Boere, in Germany is being indicted, according to what I read.
July 14, 2009 at 10:35 pm |
This guy should be forced to eat his own genitals and then his own faeces then his own eyeballs and finally beheaded with a small blunt knife over an hour. Prick.
July 15, 2009 at 1:53 am |
http://www.theolivepress.es/2009/04/20/the-fourth-reich/
How Remer and Dr. Death lived in Spain.
July 15, 2009 at 5:30 pm |
http://www.jerusalim.org/cd/galerija/arhivrs/index_en.html
Photos of Croatian Ustache, Hitler’s allies. Some photos are shocking.
July 16, 2009 at 8:14 pm |
Do we have to listen to invictus’s bulls..t ? Let him rant and rave on the street corner.
July 20, 2009 at 4:18 am |
NEW YORK, July 19 (UPI) — Hundreds, if not thousands, of Nazis are living in the United States, Efraim Zuroff of the Simon Wiesenthal Center said in New York Sunday.
John Demjanjuk, the former Ohio auto worker charged in Germany last week, is the defendant in the so-called last great Nazi war-crimes trial but Nazi hunters contend there are many more Nazis living quiet suburban lives, Zuroff told the New York Post.
So…let’s pick up Aribert Heim, DR DEATH, in Billings, Montana and prosecute him and those who protected him!
July 20, 2009 at 7:38 pm |
Yes, making a mockery of GOD is pathetic and sad. Such anger and proudness. Soon, the world will shift and you will choose between the two, Good vs Evil. It will be thrust upon you. Only then, hopefully, you will understand what “enlightened by God” means.
And you say that you teach little children? What a poor example you are. Take God with me in my head? He is everywhere, including around you. Because you choose not to acknowledge is your fault, not mine or others. God represents goodness, truth, love and justice. You seem to have “another” working through you. Am I suprised? Nope. Am I sad for you? Yep.
July 20, 2009 at 9:34 pm |
Re previous quotes… pathetic and sad
July 22, 2009 at 8:07 am |
May 13, 2009
SPIEGEL ONLINE…
However, SPIEGEL learned earlier this month that German police have their doubts about this version of events. Specialists with the criminal police force in the state of Baden-Württemberg examined the documents found in the old briefcase and found that they did not constitute “evidence of death.” New evidence from the police’s “own sources” both in Germany and abroad as well as inconsistencies in the claims of death in Egypt had prompted the police to continue their investigation “in all directions.”
August 13, 2009 at 6:20 pm |
New York Times
Cairo Link to Nazi Fugitive Confirmed!
No body, no DNA, no grave ….why????
Because Aribert Heim is NOT dead! LIES, LIES, LIES!
Aribert Heim is living in plain site, with a new ALIAS in Billings, Montana, as a United States citizen!
New York Times:
“Aribert Heim will never come back because he is dead,” said Mr. Heim, who has said he was with his father at the time of his death.”
No Aribert Heim is NOT DEAD! Lies, Lies, Lies again!
He is living in Billings, Montana and needs to be picked up!!!
August 13, 2009 at 7:00 pm |
WIESENTHAL CENTER: WITHOUT FORENSIC PROOF OF HIS DEATH, CASE OF DR. ARIBERT HEIM (“DR. DEATH” OF MAUTHAUSEN) CANNOT BE CLOSED
Jerusalem-The Simon Wiesenthal Center welcomes the initial progress announced today by the LKA (Landeskriminalamt Baden-Wurttemberg) police task force on the case of the Center’s most wanted Nazi war criminal Dr. Aribert Heim, but cautioned that without conclusive forensic proof of his death, it is still not possible to close his case. In a statement issued here today by the its chief Nazi-hunter, Israel director Dr. Efraim Zuroff, the Center made clear that while it agrees with the findings of the New York Times//ZDF report regarding Heim’s residence in Egypt for many years, there still is no conclusive evidence of his death in Cairo in 1992.
According to Zuroff:
“Without the most advanced forensic examinations available to scientifically verify Heim’s identity, we cannot possibly conclusively confirm his death. There are still serious doubts about the version of Heim’s demise presented by the New York Times and ZDF and we must therefore exercise extreme caution in assessing this information.”
DO NOT CONFIRM HIS DEATH!!! HE IS ALIVE!!!
August 13, 2009 at 7:02 pm |
“SERIOUS DOUBTS” IS THE UNDERSTATMENT OF THE YEAR!!!!
August 14, 2009 at 9:34 pm |
Is NaziHunterGurl777 the same as Nazi hunter?
August 14, 2009 at 11:31 pm |
paolosilv…
yes… Unfortunately the former wasn’t getting any attention from anyone here anymore, so he decided to use an alias, to get responses to his diatribe about the non existant, non proof, of a non person, he claims to have seen, met, talked with and yet of course refuses to do something about to the proper authorities.
Its a shame that such people decide to ruin what are meant as well meaning contributions from others.
It takes all sorts to make a world, and some people are terribly lonely, and get very little feedback in life from the everyday world, so they have to make up stories to become noticed. Then, of course, if that doesnt work, they will start attacking other people who’s postings have some glimmer of merit, where their own is just tantmount to scandal mongering.
When the words “prove it” or “known fact” come into the equation, all types of rational argument are gone, and we get references to how the “Lord guides them”…
Give people enough rope and they will believe anything. No doubt, we will be told there is a link between Billings Montana and The Loch Ness Monster, or even Area 51.If the Lord gudeth the person to say it of course…oh dear..isnt it all terribly sad?
Unfortunately, the same rubbish will keep coming out and basically they will just try to annoy people. Best to just ignore.
with best regards
Phil C
August 15, 2009 at 4:16 am |
Haahaha
Phil you are an idiot! You have no clue to what you are talking about..He is in Billings Montana, under a new alias and HE HAS BEEN TURNED IN FOR INVESTIGATION TO THE WEISENTHAL CENTER…you fool! I am getting threatened over and over and over, since the tip went out ..Death threats, and Kike names…on phone, via email, and have been since the tip went to Weisenthal.
This is documentation and nothing more than that, HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU NOT TO DRINK THE FLOURIDE!
If you took your head out of your a** and read and properly assimilated the things you read..you would have figured that out…
I have met Aribert Heim, HAVE PICTURES OF HIM and Weisenthal has it all…I don’t have to explain anything to a man who is just a plain idiot and writes like one.. you are a man right? You are as smart as a bag of rocks. The proof is right where it belongs and the only rubbish is the garbage I hear from you, NY Times and the rest of the liars who want to convince the world he is dead when he is NOT!
I am a beautiful female and I am far from lonely!
ARIBERT HEIM IS LIVING IN BILLINGS MONTANA UNDER AN ALIAS, AS A U.S. CITIZEN!!!
P.s. I have many friends who have the documents, pictures and letters to Weisenthal..just in case. So you will see many, many Nazi Hunters posting! For every threat I receive over this scumbag Heim…I will continue to the post the TRUTH. Their lies will NOT BE COVERED UP!
You better hope I never get to a microphone…because I am going to mention what a complete hole you are.. lol..
Bubye for now…Nazi hunter gypsy girl
ARIBERT HEIM IS IN BILLINGS MONTANA AND ALL PICS, DOCUMENTS HAVE BEEN TURNED IN…
August 15, 2009 at 9:02 am |
Oh, and I bet even God thinks you are acting like a hole for these lies and rubbish you spread!
P.s. Bald dude who left his remarks well above mine, has met him also! Yup, in Billings Montana…and he got a gun shoved up into his chest by him….Do you know what a poison gas gun is? Have you ever seen one fool? Bald dude can tell you a bit about HEIMS gas gun…soooooooooooooooooo Two people who have recognized him and KNOW THE TRUTH…you have no idea of what WE have been through over this! THE TRUTH will smack you in the face one day…and real hard!
They are banking on fools like you to be so dumbed down, they wouldn’t accept the truth when it is smack right in your face! Get ready for a slam in the face with the truth turd.
August 15, 2009 at 3:55 pm |
Just as I thought, more diatribe from you.
You spend most of the time spewing personal insults. Which is EXACTLY what I wrote you would do, and have done, when confronted by facts.
Let us, for the sake of pleasing your whim, accept that these “facts” that you purport to have had, are as you say now turned over to The Simon Wiesenthal Centre.
YOU, by your own claim, have sent in all the documents, photographs and details.
Excuse me, but isnt it just a little striking that your ONLY KNOWN outlet of voice is THIS little blog site here?
THIS IS WORLD SHATTERING, AMAZING AND INCREDULOUS NEWS! Every TV station, and reputable, and NON reputable newspaper on the planet would be queing up outside your home and you would be a VERY rich person indeed giving interviews to the world’s media. You would, in Andy Warhol’s famous comment, indeed have your 15mins of fame… in this case it would lead to book contracts, and you would never have to worry about little blog sites like this again!
Even if you show petulance to the New York Times (which, by the way, has actually strong Pro-Jewish connections, through its ownership, and backing).. the obvious answer is this…
GO TO THE NATIONAL ENQUIRER newspaper. They print anything. Strange, you say “many” people know the truth.. Strange that only THIS site has ever heard of it, and I cant find anything else in print anywhere to back up your claims.
Re.. Heims Gas gun. No proof, photo or report to/from the police. If it were true then being threatened with murder is a criminal offence. Yet strangely, no investigation?
Err… if these claims were remotely true, the Feds, the CIA and every detective on the planet would be filling little Billings Montanas bed and breakfasts so much that the population would double overnight.
As for God, at least HE will realise that you cannot possibly be of religious belief if spitting profanities, swearing and making threats is the correct way of the Lord. HE wouldn’t approve old chap.
Finally, and most important of all. Please READ SLOWLY.
I would LOVE to see an existant Aribert Heim caught, turned in and for my own sake, rot in prison, preferably with a few dozen hungry rats to keep him company in his cell.
I would be extremely happy to see this man captured. So would most of the rest of the world.
MOSSAAD WOULD BE DELIRIOUSLY HAPPY, and the Simon Wiesenthal organisation would be besides themselves!
Personally, I do believe he probably died, but, should he still be living, there are far safer havens to live, amongst others aamong a very large Nazi community in Spain, ditto Brazil, Paraguay, Bolivia and Argentina. Egypt and Syria have real problems because of their covering up of the Nazi system followers that they hid and still hide.
If you read about the network of ex Nazi regime people on the Costa Blanca, South America etc, they EASILY cover people up. With and amongst their own kind.
Germany and Isreal themselves have warrants out for Heim. Amongst MANY other countries… I dont think it would be so damned difficult for them to send a squad in to get him. The USA want him found just as much.. Re John Demjanjuk..
So cut out the insults, go to every press you can, tv, the works and DO SOMETHING that gets this supposed man CAUGHT.
And for heavens sake leave the Lord out of this.Try answering with demeanour. I hope you have taken copies of these supposed photos, so that the world can see this man?… and when will WE see them?
Personally, I believe you are a hoaxer.
And very sad indeed Sir
August 15, 2009 at 4:39 pm |
Personally, I believe you are a hole. We also think that you are paid to write these things against our truths.
I am a beautiful female… and after all of these postings…you still couldn’t even assimilate that!
UNBELIVABLE!
August 15, 2009 at 5:28 pm |
I am not being paid by anyone, I’m just an private individual with an interest in the subject. Why must you Americana ALWAYS think there is a conspiracy of some sort behind everything? Is it a trait or has the Land of the Free has everyone suspecting everyone?
What you are (male/female/both/not sure)is of no interest in this subject. Who you are is also of little consequence. What state your physical being is, is a matter of opinion. In your case, yours…ONLY.
I took the liberty of Googling Billings/Heim. Of EVERY reference to a supposed sighting of Heim in Billings, YOU are the only person behind it.- t THAT is the unbelievable— YOU are…NOT to be believed. A true Hoaxer.
Still you spew insults instead of reasoned argument.
You still dont answer facts, and you still dont answer valid points made above (re Media for example)
In response? I am a female.
You un fortunately are a sad, pathetic and boring little person…. a nobody in dire need of attention.
A fake, a hoaxer and in laymans terms, somone worthy only of being treated with disdain, comtempt and floccinaucinihilipilification.
So go somewhere else and believe you have seen Heinrich Muller. He is 109— and was NEVER found either.
(Pssst! He got transported by Aliens along with The Loch Ness Monster, and currently resides in the War Museum in Billings, Montana..not Billiongs, Germany, which just happens to be Billings Montana’s twin town.. no thers a conspiracy for you!)
A waste of time.
Here ENDETH the lesson. May your God go with you, and lead through whatever fairy-dairy land of make believe you live in.
August 15, 2009 at 10:47 pm |
You are being paid..and a “hole” that is a given!
Didn’t you say that you would not bother responding anymore?…another paid hole to distract others from the truth of what is being said…and don’t ever tell me to go away..because I won’t..until they pick HEIM UP IN BILLINGS MONTANA and I stop getting threatened!
Even God must know you are a hole, because GOD hates evil, liars and those who advocate lies…that means you “hole”!…too dumb to even read and realize I am a woman…errrrr STOP calling me SIR!
August 16, 2009 at 3:43 am |
1. I said Id stop responding to your first alias…not this one.. there.. you fell into your own trap. PRATT.
2. You are rude
3. You are a hoaxer
4. you are a time waster
5. You are probably mentally unstable.
More commandments thou dost not deserve.
Here ENDETH the lesson. May your God go with you, and lead through whatever fairy-dairy land of make believe you live in.
Suggestion. Go pick Heim up yourself. Scared of a 95 year old man? Of course.. he has a gas gun… whoop f…ing eeee.
What a waste of space you are.
HOAXER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 17, 2009 at 7:37 am |
I believe that Aribert Heim is living in Billings, Montana. I have recognized him and turned him into Weisenthal in early May, 2009. I believe that Heim is living as a citizen of the US, with a new alias, new name,new age, new wife, etc. Since sending this tip, pictures and his private information, I have endured many threats against me, via email, via phone, outside my home and also being threatened by this “man,” since the tip went out. I am 110% sure that this is Heim. There is one other person/witness to the facts, whom has also been physically threatened with a weapon by this man, whom he believes to be Aribert Heim now also. This man in question, owns a poison gas gun, actually telling us that he could kill us and no one would know how we died. Can you get one of those guns at WALMART? ALL Pictures and FULL documentation have been sent out, not only to Weisenthal but to many others, friends/family, coworkers, etc, due to these threats.
Silly girl I am, I thought that this pickup would happen quickly, not considering that they would have to investigate this person, which could be quite timely, due to the fact that he is under a fake name, fake background, and of course, an investigation of whom put him here with these legal credentials?
How do you stay safe when you can not repeat the “fake name” of this person..to the public and you are not allowed to file a police report, to get someone to take a good look at him and this situation?
This man has the same exact eyes, lips, cleft in chin, still very tall, considering he is 95 and we all know what happens to height, when a body has aged. My camera has picked up infamous scars, apparent plastic surgery. He claims to have lived in all of these places, Chili, Argentina, Spain..etc. Eludes to working with CIA/blackOps/ Has possesion of this “poison gas” gun, agrees with depopulation, eugenics, he is confused about how many years he has been married, how long he has lived in Montana, where he has lived in California, though his history after the past 30 years ends there. If that is even his history…. every story is different, no pictures on his walls of any type of life, celebration, uses many different names that all lead to his home, all very similar, uses three different intials, and one of these names has ‘aribert heim’ hidden within it and the best yet, had a Gov block on the phone lines to the house?
Tried to file a police report on this man, only for brandishing weapons, threats, including the poison gas gun, though the authority would not allow a report to be taken? Interesting.
I am posting here, for documentation/safety purposes.
I wish they would pick this man up and bring him to justice. How long does it really take to get DNA/fingerprints and find the trail of how he got here? I got it all within a few months!
August 17, 2009 at 12:30 pm |
PhilC lies, lies, lies and spews more lies. He is being paid to distract others from the truth. Shame on you! God hates evil and lies. He knows you well…and I can bank the reward on the fact that he knows you are a “hole” that is getting paid for this garbage you type. You will get what you deserve and more!
September 12, 2009 at 8:57 pm |
i have recently visited AUSCHWITZ BIRKENAU anyone has doubts about the holocaust,go there & see it pure evil you feel it in the place.
September 12, 2009 at 9:01 pm |
Stop this please…. Im British I live in Germany you cannot generalise, the German people are very special in my opinion its time to stop blaming all Germans for the atrocoties that occured in the 30 and 40s.
It was and is awful what happened then but why should the generations that followed have to pay for crimes committed by some very hateful men, track down these men and make them responsible for what they did but please stop colouring all Germans with this .
The German nation is as horrified by wht the Nazis did.
I lived close to a Jewish community whilst in England and have Jewish friends its time in a very mixed world in crisis to try and live in harmony , call me niave but I truly live in hope of one day people realising that as a people we need to respect each other and find a way to live together and take care of each other.
I live in hope and believe in human kindness and wish you all a safe night
Sheila x
September 12, 2009 at 11:34 pm |
Have just seen a documentary about this b@rstard. He is clearly among the most depraved, evil and worthless beings to ever walk the Earth. I believe that the time will come, if it hasn’t already, that he will have to stand before God and be judged for his actions. I would imagine that his punishment would be greater than any human being can imagine and would go on for far, far longer than the combined lives of all his victims. Good. I hope he burns in hell for ever.
September 13, 2009 at 10:13 am |
he wiil
September 13, 2009 at 12:12 pm |
hi just 2 let u no i hope never 2 c whot hapend 2 the jews in the camps, a i no that all that thay killed there r now with god, a for thes men that done most horid things to the jews will live in torment 4 the rest of ther lives even when thay r dead god will punish then beond belef ..
September 14, 2009 at 4:09 am |
Nazihuntergirl, I think is a terrifying example of extreme beliefs. Be it God, Nazis, nationalism, elitism etc. I have no answers, but 2 suggestions. More education, and more love when growing up from family. Its so easy to feel anger when reading some awful extreme views, but whats really worse, is how the person became who they now are to give them. I genuinely feel so sorry for anyone to have had such an awful life and upbringing that they find themselves now in a place where hatred of anyone to them feels justified. Hate, fear and anger are such life sapping emotions, and i truly feel for people here suffering from them. Peace
September 14, 2009 at 5:32 am |
It’s called JUSTICE not hate. How you treat others…is how you should be treated. No hate, no fear, no anger….just JUSTICE. Simple as that!
The truth hurts sometimes doesn’t it?
As for Aribert ‘MONSTER’ Heim, You say we should feel sorry for him because he had a dismal, sad upbringing as a child? His Mummy didn’t love him enough nor keep him on the breast long enough? Did Daddy beat him up too many times or he was repeatedly raped by the man next door for years?
Are you saying that because his parents were so defective in their genes, to produce such a defective, murderous, spiritually vile offspring such as him, that we should feel sorry for him? He is vindicated of his murders of how many innocent people because he had a sad boo-hoo childhood or he did not receive enough education? It doesn’t work that way brother.
Interesting warped theory you have. lol Wrap it up with a pretty bow and sell this ‘doodoo’, as ya say, to someone else.
He had an extreme amount of education, but still, he was completely defective in mind and soul. His twisted ideas of eugenics and warped medical experiements should have been tested on himself first, then we wouldn’t be having these conversations right now and many, many people would have their Fathers, Mothers, Children, Aunts, Uncles among the living. I genuinely feel sorry for them and Heim’s victims! May God bless them all!
Ridding EVIL out of this world is GOOD, so that something so TERRIFYING AND DISPICABLE as the Holocaust NEVER-EVER HAPPENS AGAIN! We are all God’s people, even the lame and ignorant such as yourself.
God101: Making excuses for evil atrocities is NOT GOOD-it actually borders on evil.
Justice is just that “JUSTICE.”
Nothing terrifying about justice, unless you are a person/perpetrator and you are guilty of murder/torture/dispicable abuses against God’s people…then, I suppose you have much to worry about and so much to be terrified about. Aribert Heim has much to be terrified about. Down here and up there.
Aribert Heim didn’t think twice and he felt quite
JUSTIFIED when he was full of anger and hate, killing all of those, poor, defenseless, innocent people. Life sapping emotions? Sell it to the families of the murdered who have had to live with these memories everyday of their lives! Or, should they feel sorry for him also? (Barf)
As I like to say in my house,
“Happy Trails…that leads to jails…hopefully soon
And a big shout out to Heidi and Bert!!! May Justice prevail!
Nazihuntergurl777
September 14, 2009 at 9:50 pm |
lol, no. i was talking about the people writing the posts here. there is a big difference. And we actually agree on one thing. he should be brought to justice, no doubt, no matter what age.
September 26, 2009 at 11:03 pm |
hi. do you have a recent picture of Aribert Heim ?
Is this him today:
http://patdollard.com/2008/04/new-ten-most-wanted-nazi-list-released/#comment-539019
October 5, 2009 at 7:09 am |
Well, im not nazi, i think of myself as a normal citizen but the jews talk so much about genocide and they do the same now with all the economic power the have achieved, the step on other countries and people, maybe they dont kill the people openly but the have their killing fields just at home after using their power to rob the palestinians from their own soil in the name of GOD of course. I dont take sides, just read a history book and dont be so closed minded and fanatic just to say jews are right anyways thats my point of view I think is fair and I dont really care what you people think just was exposing my taughts.
October 9, 2009 at 1:32 am |
Just Wondering
What Holocaust are you guys speaking about??
Was it the American Indian Holocaust???
OH! thats right that one dont count…
ALL WARS have killed far too many women-children and
the young men of its tribe…
One more thing–when you see the WWII videos of the Normandy invasion….where are the black guys???
I have never seen any video of a black man on that beach looking to save the good ole USA…
I have also never seen brainwashed people as in the good ole USA…
wake up you poor fools
The jews have just stole all your 401K–Homes–cars..
and now you will rebuy all that same crap again.
Looks like somebody has finally stood up to the Jews that are stealing from us…
You show them how it’s done Obama….
sieg heil
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October 10, 2009 at 6:54 pm |
What does 14 2012 mean, above commentor? Will something be planned for 1/4/12?
November 2, 2009 at 8:07 pm |
You would be smart to remove these last two remarks. This is a futile attempt to push away your blog from a higher rating, so that no one can see your blog, pushing it further into the list of Nazi war criminals. A search engine professional of sorts. I Wonder why? Nothing much of anything but opinions inside your blog?